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Fake Warning - Seamaster 300 With Coaxial 8400 Style Movement Cover

Stewart H
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The only sure way to buy a real omega is to go to an omega owned store.

Even authorised dealers could be dealing in grey market or very high end fakes. If they can cover it or there is a doubt how do you know. At worst they will apologise, pleased ignorance and offer a refund. This is unlikely but possible, grey market is more probable.

I don't think many (if any) ADs would even contemplate selling fake or grey market watches. Why would they risk losing that status?
 
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I don't think many (if any) ADs would even contemplate selling fake or grey market watches. Why would they risk losing that status?[/Q

Very unlikely but anything is possible.
 
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I don't think many (if any) ADs would even contemplate selling fake or grey market watches. Why would they risk losing that status?
I'd completely agree with this statement, if its an actual Omega AD, you're getting a real Omega watch.
 
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With an AD you'll be buying a watch complete with box, two or three, sometimes four "credit cards" re. the spec and warranty etc. A replica will not be equipped with the "full set".
 
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With an AD you'll be buying a watch complete with box, two or three, sometimes four "credit cards" re. the spec and warranty etc. A replica will not be equipped with the "full set".
Wouldn't those things be the easiest of all to counterfeit?
 
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Al,
I used a photo program to tweak the colors and contrast till I could see it pretty clearly. It appears to be either 88510188 or 88510198. Having said that, the number is on the lug upside down compared to genuine ones shown on this forum. Also, the opposite lug should have the words Stainless Steel on it...it doesn't. The lug surface has a slight ripple finish, and not the typical smooth surface on the real ones.

Stu

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I read it as 88510198.

I saw photos of several fakes (they acknowledged as much) and all had this same serial number.

Thanks to both - I always like to check the serial numbers of known fakes to see if they give a result on the Extranet, and neither of these do.

Cheers, Al
 
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With an AD you'll be buying a watch complete with box, two or three, sometimes four "credit cards" re. the spec and warranty etc. A replica will not be equipped with the "full set".

Unfortunately that's not true....the 'high end' fakes I mentioned earlier come with inner and outer boxes, wallet and cards etc.......the full monty.
 
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chickenman26 is right about the serial number being upside down.

I just want to comment on the serial number orientation being a sure tell - personally I don't think it is. I just looked at 7 different modern Omegas I have here in the shop (all genuine of course), and 6 have the serial number oriented as this fake does, and one is written in the opposite manner.

I have commented on this before when someone asked about it either here or on some other forum, and I recall checking the watches in my shop at that time and it being more like a 50-50 split back then. There is no right orientation that applies across all Omega watches of every era.

I have not done enough study by grouping them by age, or type (Speedmaster, Seamsater, etc.) to see if there is any pattern, but they are most definitely not all the same way.

Cheers, Al
 
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Sorry if I misled you, Al. My observation was of only this model watch, and not considering the full range of Omega's offerings. Have you ever seen this particular reference # with the serial oriented as shown?

Stu
 
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Dear taddyangle,

Good morning,

Yes we absolutely guarantee this is an authentic Omega. Box, papers, and warranty card are all present and in order.
Apologies for the delay on additional photographs, I just got back into town and will upload some later on when I arrive to the office.

Regards,
LST
 
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Sorry if I misled you, Al. My observation was of only this model watch, and not considering the full range of Omega's offerings. Have you ever seen this particular reference # with the serial oriented as shown?

Stu

You didn't mislead me mate. My concern is that people will read the posts here about the orientation, and think that anything with the orientation shown (no matter what model or age) is a fake, and that's not the case.

As I stated in my post above, I have not studied variations within a specific model or age range.

Cheers, Al
 
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I just want to comment on the serial number orientation being a sure tell - personally I don't think it is. I just looked at 7 different modern Omegas I have here in the shop (all genuine of course), and 6 have the serial number oriented as this fake does, and one is written in the opposite manner.

I have commented on this before when someone asked about it either here or on some other forum, and I recall checking the watches in my shop at that time and it being more like a 50-50 split back then. There is no right orientation that applies across all Omega watches of every era.

I have not done enough study by grouping them by age, or type (Speedmaster, Seamsater, etc.) to see if there is any pattern, but they are most definitely not all the same way.

Cheers, Al

Just checked my Dark Side and Grey Side and both serial numbers are the same orientation as this one
 
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Dear taddyangle,

Good morning,

Yes we absolutely guarantee this is an authentic Omega. Box, papers, and warranty card are all present and in order.
Apologies for the delay on additional photographs, I just got back into town and will upload some later on when I arrive to the office.

Regards,
LST

Don't hold your breath.
 
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I reported it right when this thread was post. Bay is normally pretty good at pulling once several reports are made.
 
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I think it is not only Omega. Rolex is certainly the biggest victim. You will be hard pressed to distinguish real and fake Submariner (Probably highest selling rolex) Even with ceramic bezel. Panerais are the next With very high level of similarity. AP RO and ROO are also quite popular fake that are difficult to differentiate by common guy. Only Nautilus in popular line up that those fakers still unable to produce convinvingly.

Ak John Mayer
 
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Wasn't the John Mayer situation that his crazy high end collector watches had non-original parts in them, not that they were outright fakes? I'm not really sure of the full story there.
 
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5000000 Spent on what ended being Frankens and some replicas. A mess
 
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Unfortunately that's not true....the 'high end' fakes I mentioned earlier come with inner and outer boxes, wallet and cards etc.......the full monty.
What is to stop someone copying a serial number from a real omega on a high end fake.
 
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