Fake Warning - Seamaster 300 With Coaxial 8400 Style Movement Cover

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All of the fakes are getting so close aesthetically that you can't buy a watch based on looks alone. Omega is advancing horology with their anti-magnetic movements and co-axial escapement which the Chinese factories cannot build. It does make buying over the internet incredibly difficult for authenticating pre-purchase but authenticating post purchase is super simple. Put it on a timing machine. If it is 28.8K VPH then it's a dressed up clone ETA movement made to look like an 8400/8500/8800/8900. If it is 25.2K then that's an Omega.

Second, and for future proofing use a strong magnet near the watch. If you use $50 magnet you will be able to see the movement suffer if it isn't genuine Omega. And that second point is truly proof in the pudding. Not only is it a means to authenticate the watch but it is an extremely useful feature in today's age of electronics everywhere and security at the airport.

Truthfully, pretty watches only cost $300 to $500. If a watch brand only has pretty looks going for it, then are they currently earning their reputation and prestige? Truly pretty watches like an AP or Patek, sure the looks are valuable but a lot of those looks are in the movement. The level of hand decorating going into their movements is part of the value. Pretty watches like Omega, and Rolex? Not so much. Modern Omega brings value in their advances to watch movement technology and that's a great thing.

The hour jumping feature isn't difficult to clone either. It's a feature on most GMT watches. Modifying a 2892 to a 2893 isn't difficult for ETA so I imagine it's not difficult to modify a 2836 to do a jumping hour. IIRC, the date complication and 24 hour complication are intertwined.
 
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Hey guys!

Great forum great advices, I'm new and about to buy my first Omega, a Planet Ocean ref 85243048.

I would really appreciate your help on this one to know if it's gen or not. (seems fake to me)

Here is the beast:





The shinning numbers on the dial and kinda weird 6, the "T-shaped" end link and the clock hands make me think it's fake.

Great week end to all of you,

Q.U.
 
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Exactly i was about to write about the balance wheel👍
 
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Yikes! This is getting scary. I guess the old adage rings true "buy the seller".
 
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Beware there are Planet Ocean Cal 8500 fakes of this type too now:

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Omega-Seama...ail-Over-4k-/121727129110?hash=item1c57809616

Please report the listing but be aware that these are out there.
 
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Hi I have planet ocean gmt and my serial is 85243048 my warranty card looks off

Serial number: 85243048
Article ref: 23110422106001

Oops! Did you mean Aqua Terra instead of Planet Ocean? If not, you may have a fake...
 
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Another fake with this style of movement:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/201440218974?clk_rvr_id=914695501250&rmvSB=true

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Be VERY careful and if in doubt ask around.
Short summary on how to spot a fake Seamaster 300 Master Co-Axial (did my homework):

- the crown on the fake is brushed and not polished as on the gen
- the metal between the case and the bezel is brushed on the fake and not polished as on the gen
- the serial number on the lug is upside down compared to the gen
- the serial number on the case appears not to be consecutively numbered (it's always the same number) - 88510199
- the serial number on the movement appears not to be consecutively numbered (it's always the same number) - 85243048
- serial number on case and movement don't mach (contrary to the gen obviously)
- the link next to the end link (on both sides) is engraved with the ref. number of the bracelet "STZ001145" (for the steel bracelet) on the gen, not so on the fake
- there is no Omega engraving + again the ref. nr. of the bracelet engraved on the bottom side of the clasp-mechanism (where the little pin is) on the fake as contrary to the gen
- there is no "stainless steal" engraving on the 7 o'clock lug on the fake compared to the gen
- the movement in the fake is a Myota 8215 which is supposed to look like a 8400 - but of course, it doesn't. The most noticeable differenc; the Myota has its balance wheel on the 7 to 8 o'clock position compared to the balance wheel on the 8400 which is on the 6 o'clock position. The balance wheel on the 8400 is black due to its use of silicon and not "gold" as on the Myota.
- the lume on the fake isn't correct - its all blue, including the bezel pearl. On the original the lume on the minute hand and on the pearl is greenish. (Some say that the fake-factories improved on that point, but I haven't seen a correct fake yet).
- on the fake, the inner metal ring (the ring between the bezel and the crystal) isn't flush with the bezel - it "pops out" a bit so that there is a "gap" between the ring and bezel.

Cheers,

Paddington.
 
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Hi I bought seawater planet ocean gmt n my serial number is 85243048 does that mean mine is fake my warranty card looks off im not sure how to use these forums please help me
 
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Hi I bought seawater planet ocean gmt n my serial number is 85243048 does that mean mine is fake my warranty card looks off im not sure how to use these forums please help me

Next to a "reply" button you have "add photos" button and this is how you insert the photos.
Not sure is it needed tho, Archer has access to Omega intranet, so he can check does a serial number correspond to the respective watch (reference number).
As per above post - Omega has put 85243048 serial number on the Aqua Terra watch, not Seamaster PO GMT watch.
 
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5000000 Spent on what ended being Frankens and some replicas. A mess

Whole I shouldn't laugh, I can't help but remember the video of Mr. Mayer acting like a complete horse's ass while showing off some of those....

Currently, some of the Rolex "Super Fakes" are even equipped with Chronometer spec chinese movements that are 1 for 1 replicas of one generation old Rolex movements.

I haven't heard of a functional chinese clone of a voaxialo movement or a silicon hairspring, so Omega movements are safe for now.
 
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Tons of great info in this thread regarding spotting fake Seamaster 300s! I can't believe how good some of these replicas have become! I have actually been looking into the OMEGA Seamaster Planet Ocean 600M recently. I have come across a few replicas but they seem much fewer and far in between. Luckily, I found this great article reviewing the Planet Ocean 600M extensively, answering any questions I had.

Check out this article on the Seamaster Planet Ocean 600M. OMEGA Watches: https://www.bobswatches.com/rolex-blog/watch-review/omega-seamaster-planet-ocean-600m.html

"The Omega Seamaster Planet Ocean 600M checks all the right boxes both as an everyday sporty luxury watch, as well as a robust diving instrument. In fact, it’s so beloved for its design, versatility, and usability, it’s surprising to think that the fan-favorite Planet Ocean collection has only existed for just over a dozen years."