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Ron_W
·HI OF,
i never seen one like this before, is it a correct certificate issued by Omega ?
i never seen one like this before, is it a correct certificate issued by Omega ?
Fake or real Omega 345.0808 certificate from 2003 ?
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sathomasga
·I don't think that watch is a "SEAMASTER"
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Ron_W
·I don't think that watch is a "SEAMASTER"
Edit ; from a Japanese seller ( like with the Mitsukoshi watch in another thread ) trying to present a collectable version with suspicious papers. I see some pricedrops on Japanese offerings lately which was never the case untill a few months back, so maybe desperate times for them ?
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SOG53
·Gotta be fake
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Franco
·Maria Mastrodonato’s signature is correct, or scanned and reproduced.
I have seen some in the same style , but :
1- they were in German, and signed by Diethelm
2- they had a faint watermark on the paper
Of course it was possible that others were providing them in English.
Remember that at the time was mailing with Jean Luc Miranda and argue that the service provided informally ( by email) by Mr. Diethelm could be provided routinely, may be with a small charge
I have seen some in the same style , but :
1- they were in German, and signed by Diethelm
2- they had a faint watermark on the paper
Of course it was possible that others were providing them in English.
Remember that at the time was mailing with Jean Luc Miranda and argue that the service provided informally ( by email) by Mr. Diethelm could be provided routinely, may be with a small charge
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sathomasga
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IIRC, both EoA and Certificates of Authenticity were available. The modestly priced EoA only required providing details (namely the movement serial number) and - outside the US - a photograph. Certificates were more expensive and required sending the watch itself to Switzerland.
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Franco
·Achim, where are you? Remember what was like early 2000’s. I am sure that until 2003-2004 only private emails were available
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...I see no issue with the watch... except that appears to be a modern 1171/1 not a period one, which is not a huge thing to me, and the disclosed luminova replacement hands which is a huge valuer hit. Its not like these cases where faked, and the serial appears to be in range for watch.
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Franco
·Just to say that both those certificates are not mine, but found on the web. Have no proof they are genuine
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Meme-Dweller
·I don't think that "certificate" has anything to do with Omega. Probably the AD using their brand trademarks without permission.
The format is a big clue-- a lot of ADs sometimes provide clients with an appraisal of the watch they just bought. Some insurance companies require this before they can insure your watch and will request you take your watch to someone that is GIA certified for this paperwork. The final line of "The price estimates are only indicative and subject to change" likely confirms this, as you never see any brand paperwork show the price of a watch.
The format is a big clue-- a lot of ADs sometimes provide clients with an appraisal of the watch they just bought. Some insurance companies require this before they can insure your watch and will request you take your watch to someone that is GIA certified for this paperwork. The final line of "The price estimates are only indicative and subject to change" likely confirms this, as you never see any brand paperwork show the price of a watch.
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Franco
·The topic of fake Omega certificates gets thicker ....
I have compared side to side the signatures of the two "certificates" above. They look identical, even with the exact intersections of the text around it , I have little doubt that have been scanned or stored or reused. Do not know how to interpret, but find weird that signatures in Official Certificates are not signed in original, both sent to Wien (AT)
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I have compared side to side the signatures of the two "certificates" above. They look identical, even with the exact intersections of the text around it , I have little doubt that have been scanned or stored or reused. Do not know how to interpret, but find weird that signatures in Official Certificates are not signed in original, both sent to Wien (AT)
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Ron_W
·I see no issue with the watch... except that appears to be a modern 1171/1 not a period one, which is not a huge thing to me, and the disclosed luminova replacement hands which is a huge valuer hit. Its not like these cases where faked, and the serial appears to be in range for watch.
