F2F sale that went wrong (news story)

JwRosenthal · May 21, 2020

Eric304
Wow! I live in OC, and not far from it. I guess I will be avoiding FTF deal now.

Just avoid people with large bulges in the wrong places 😉

SkunkPrince · May 21, 2020

demchocholips
It seemed like the guys at the gun shop perceived carrying a striker fired weapon without a manual safety as a manly virtue.

And yet when you buy some range time and they ask what you're shooting, "45 automatic", they seem to hush up.

At least around here. 😁

Eric304 · May 21, 2020

JwRosenthal
Just avoid people with large bulges in the wrong places 😉

🤦

valkyrie_rider · May 21, 2020

SkunkPrince
And yet when you buy some range time and they ask what you're shooting, "45 automatic", they seem to hush up.

At least around here. 😁

If you like shooting .45acp, you should one of this days try a HK USP Expert.

The damn thing is crazy precise and it is pretty soft shooting thanks to its recoil spring:

JwRosenthal · May 21, 2020

Eric304
🤦

Oh, get your mind out of the gutter-
I was talking about this

😉

SkunkPrince · May 21, 2020

valkyrie_rider
If you like shooting .45acp, you should one of this days try a HK USP Expert.

I shot a SIG .45ACP some decades ago but I have to tell you that the 1911 fits my hands so well that I won't search for another.

pIoNeErOfThEnILe · May 21, 2020

this would have never of happened if it was a squale

Mad Dog · May 21, 2020

JwRosenthal
I can think of a few members here that would bring guns to a watch deal - but that would be for an adjacent trade deal or maybe guns for watches...we all have multiple hobbies.

I can think of a few members here that would bring [swearing] action figures with guns to a watch deal...see the Hasbro guns in the blue circles below...

asrnj77 · May 22, 2020

JwRosenthal
Just avoid people with large bulges in the wrong places 😉

I would rather avoid the guy who seems to have empty pockets (devoid of said cash to buy the watch). 😁

My concern isn’t the armed guy looking to sell his watch in the OC, it’s the guy who planned a theft prior to the meeting. The seller was lucky (as was everybody standing nearby) that the thief didn’t bring his own gun.

larryganz · May 22, 2020

demchocholips
After owning various striker fired pistols for years, I bought a Sig P365 with manual safety as my carry weapon. At the gun shop, I was told that manual safety wasn’t really necessary and that weapon familiarity and practice could minimize the risk of accidental discharge. My counterpoint was that practice could make use of the manual safety instinctual. It seemed like the guys at the gun shop perceived carrying a striker fired weapon without a manual safety as a manly virtue.

My son and I both carry the P365, and for Christmas I did the manual safety conversion for his, at his request. We like it so much that I plan to do the same with mine. I've been carrying for enough years (since 1993) that it's seamless for me to transition from my Glock 19 to my Sig P229 DA/SA with de-cocker and back to my Sig P365. I do mostly only carry a striker fired pistol or a S&W snub nose revolver lately.

I just like the idea of the additional safety factor for when I do pocket carry in a pocket holster, so I don't shoot myself in the leg when I'm drawing my pistol out of the holster while in my front pants pocket. It can be tricky getting a pistol out of a pocket holster in a panic, such as when emergently needing a gun, without getting a finger in the trigger guard as you try to get a proper grip on it for firearm retention.

In practice with no ammo I have never pulled the trigger doing a fast draw, but getting a proper grip where you wont drop the pistol as you pull it from the holster practically requires putting your finger in the hot zone. And the gun range wont allow quick draw from a pocket holster with a loaded firearm, so it's hard to perfect the technique.

But the manual safety could also be helpful if I were to become disarmed and in the heat of the moment the bad guy couldn't shoot me with my own gun before I got away because he wasn't familiar with the safety. I've trained with carrying a Kimber Compact CDP II in 45ACP (1911 style single action with safety) but stopped carrying that style of weapon about 10 years ago because other members of my family didn't want to learn about "cocked and locked" and at most could remember to point and shoot.

Uniqez · May 22, 2020

demchocholips
To get my NC permit I only needed to attend an eight hour training course, which was mostly classroom based with ~30 minutes of range time. I definitely think anyone who carries would benefit from additional safety training above this bar plus regular shooting practice. Even something like how to holster a pistol safely should be required learning and practiced often.

I would say it should be mandatory for gun owners to have a membership in gun club and have constant practice. There is no magic here, just the mater of practicing.
Just an example. I have lot of colleagues from Texas. Most of the time they are visiting the office, we would go to the gun club and shoot. These guys,man.... I'm telling you, practice makes huge difference. So before all this Covid things, I was able to go at least once a month and practice. My colleagues are shooting anytime, they have free time, on their back yards))))) Needles to say they were getting bull eyes left and right.

demchocholips · May 22, 2020

Before stay-at-home orders I was shooting at least every other weekend. My shooting is going to suck when I get back to the range.

larryganz · May 22, 2020

My private gun club has stay open but is limiting the number of people inside, forcing social distancing, and cleaning thoroughly and often. Needless to say, I'm still staying at home if I can, and consider more practice to be optional.

valkyrie_rider · May 22, 2020

@demchocholips have you heard of the Mantis X?
https://mantisx.com/pages/press-media

It is a device you attach to the picatinny rail in a pistol or rifle, it monitors all your movements in near realtime and offers analysis of what could be improved and what is wrong (e.g. breaking wrist up, etc).

I got one last December is it truly works towards improving grouping and precision. It is a great way to keep training when you are unable ot visit the range.

demchocholips · May 23, 2020

valkyrie_rider
@demchocholips have you heard of the Mantis X?
https://mantisx.com/pages/press-media

It is a device you attach to the picatinny rail in a pistol or rifle, it monitors all your movements in near realtime and offers analysis of what could be improved and what is wrong (e.g. breaking wrist up, etc).

I got one last December is it truly works towards improving grouping and precision. It is a great way to keep training when you are unable ot visit the range.

I hadn’t heard of that. Seems like a great training aid. I’ll check it out.

I’m only able to dry fire practice right now. I find the biggest difference between when I’m shooting well or poorly is how I handle the trigger.

OmegaP99 · Jul 18, 2020

I carry the piece in my avatar to every single watch deal. I nicknamed it Brrrrrrttttttttt Lancaster.

ChiefMark · Jul 18, 2020

demchocholips
I’m not a lawyer, but I’m guessing the seller is going to have legal problems much bigger than the pain of losing $7000. Someone grabbing the watch and running off is not imminent threat to life.

100%. Idiots.

321Only · Jul 18, 2020

So glad to live in Europe

arturo7 · Jul 18, 2020

BlackTalon
Even though many consider it to be a year-round paradise, it can be cold there at times. A pair of snug gloves is recommended. Very, very snug gloves...

"Go, OJ!" I had a small group of people at my house when the "high-speed chase" came on TV. We watched for an hour or so, riveted to the screen, and to our beers.

I was down at my local when this occurred. It was quite the event. There was wagering involved.

Stripey · Jul 18, 2020

321Only
So glad to live in Europe

Because you can't access the article because of the American terror of GDPR, or because Europe has a different attitude to guns?