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F2F sale that went wrong (news story)
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pongster
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asrnj77
·Just to be clear and so I can tell myself I’m not going crazy, it doesn’t say Invicta anywhere, right? I figured it was a joke but had to re-read the article several times 😀
On another note, although it is a serious charge I highly doubt this guy will face any severe punishment. I can’t imagine a jury and judge throwing the proverbial book at a guy who shot at a mugger and didn’t hit anything. My prediction is that if he has no prior criminal history he’ll get off without jail time and will have to do community service and probation.
On another note, although it is a serious charge I highly doubt this guy will face any severe punishment. I can’t imagine a jury and judge throwing the proverbial book at a guy who shot at a mugger and didn’t hit anything. My prediction is that if he has no prior criminal history he’ll get off without jail time and will have to do community service and probation.
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watch3s
·maybe he loses his CC permit as well.
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Uniqez
·I’m not a lawyer, but I’m guessing the seller is going to have legal problems much bigger than the pain of losing $7000. Someone grabbing the watch and running off is not imminent threat to life.
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kip595
·All politics aside; growing up in New Orleans during the era crack had turned half the city into a warzone, I understand some folks' de facto response of 'better to have and not need than need and not have' when it comes to carrying. As a CCW holder; I've only ever had to pull over an attempted carjacking, fortunately in the gun-happy state of AZ (the cop I called to report it actually thanked me, that was definitely a first).
I did live in L.A. and the OC both for about 4 years total, and can say that the local news there does NOT like ever indicating the discharge of a firearm by a citizen may have been appropriate, regardless of reason, so I'd venture to say all we can do is speculate about what really happened. Attempted thief grabs watch and bolts? No imminent threat. Attempted thief pulls knife to grab watch, flees when he sees the pistol come out...that's a different story. But not one the press is necessarily obligated to report fully. Just my two cents.
I did live in L.A. and the OC both for about 4 years total, and can say that the local news there does NOT like ever indicating the discharge of a firearm by a citizen may have been appropriate, regardless of reason, so I'd venture to say all we can do is speculate about what really happened. Attempted thief grabs watch and bolts? No imminent threat. Attempted thief pulls knife to grab watch, flees when he sees the pistol come out...that's a different story. But not one the press is necessarily obligated to report fully. Just my two cents.
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JwRosenthal
·I am a lifelong gun owner (since age 12) have a collection that many would call an “aresenal” with enough ammo to supply a small militia, and I am 100% behind gun laws, regulations and restrictions. In the US , it is a privilege more so than a right (2nd Ammend is always misinterpreted) and ass-hats like this guy who pops a few off when someone does a snatch & run just makes all gun owners look bad.
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Uniqez
·I am a lifelong gun owner (since age 12) have a collection that many would call an “aresenal” with enough ammo to supply a small militia, and I am 100% behind gun laws, regulations and restrictions. In the US , it is a privilege more so than a right (2nd Ammend is always misinterpreted) and ass-hats like this guy who pops a few off when someone does a snatch & run just makes all gun owners look bad.
P.S.I was going to post a picture of the gun and the watch - but let's keep it this way).
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JwRosenthal
·I don't think media ever tells about brave people, who used their guns to actually save lives. Hopefully, I will never, ever use mine anywhere else, but the target practicing.
P.S.I was going to post a picture of the gun and the watch - but let's keep it this way).
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Uniqez
·Agreed- and this is why I am so “left” about the topic, I don’t trust that a populous that needs little more than a driver’s license and clean criminal background can be trusted in situations of stress or temperament. I was almost assaulted by a woman in the super market 2 weeks ago when I asked her to step back from the conveyer (social distancing) as she was standing there as I was trying to pay- imagine if she was packing!!
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·You would've have few extra holes on your body, if she was packing 😉 . I am 10000% agree with you mate. In my head, they should've get the strictest CC rules from all of the strictest states and make it on the federal level somehow. I have two licenses from two different states (one - I've got mandatory training,background check, interview in police department with licensing officer, another one (non-resident)- just sent a copy of my LTC and a check to get it).
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larryganz
·I’m not a lawyer, but I’m guessing the seller is going to have legal problems much bigger than the pain of losing $7000. Someone grabbing the watch and running off is not imminent threat to life.
Believe it or not, in Colorado it is legal to shoot at a fleeing felon. Still not a good idea if your life or others are not in danger.
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demchocholips
·Attempted thief grabs watch and bolts? No imminent threat. Attempted thief pulls knife to grab watch, flees when he sees the pistol come out...that's a different story. But not one the press is necessarily obligated to report fully. Just my two cents.
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·IIRC, under California’s super strict gun laws, scenarios in which a gun owner can use lethal force are extremely restrictive. If an attacker pulls out a knife and stabs you once and is about to stab you again, you are legally justified to shoot. If the attacker pulls out a knife, stabs you once and then walks away, you CANNOT legally shoot the attacker.
But if you have a good reason to believe that they are going also to stab other people soon after they flee, you should be able to fire to protect other lives. Again, that is also how it is in CO.
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valkyrie_rider
·Try NYC lol
In Santa Clara county (CA), apparently you got pay a pile of cash to the sheriff to be 'granted' a CCW. It is so bad that it is under investigation by the DA:
https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/11...ta-clara-county-grants-concealed-gun-permits/
https://bearingarms.com/cam-e/2019/12/14/evidence-wrongdoing-mounting-ca-sheriff-carry-probe/
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demchocholips
·Try NYC lol
Before I drove back to CA from NC, I wanted to check the CCW laws for the states I would pass through. Out of curiosity, I looked up permit holders as % of state population. NC is 6.4%. NY is 1.0%. CA is 0.3%!