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An industry that is totally unneeded and wasteful wants to project their righteousness by banning overflights. Got it. F1 spends too much time being woke these days.
 
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Not a fan of any military displays at sporting events...so I have no problem with this ban.
 
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It’s sort of a hollow thing to do since F1 still takes boatloads of money from a number or countries that are dictatorships with horrible records looking to rehabilitate their leaders’ reputations through sport.

Like we may take 10s of millions from killers and let them hand out trophies to sporting heroes for the cameras but we draw the line at an FA18 flying over Melbourne.
 
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The FA-18 flyover does serve a purpose too btw, it encourages teenagers to go down to their Air Force recruiting office asking if they can join up and become pilots. Which the recruiters say yes to, promptly signing them up to serve. At which point they’re told we only have like 35 planes, and they’re all currently occupied by qualified pilots, but there is a position open to be a typing clerk in Canberra.

So that flyby leads to a young man learning how to type, and to read contracts thoroughly before signing them. Two life lessons that will serve him well through adulthood. Or at least that’s what it did for my uncle.

 
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Not a fan of any military displays at sporting events...so I have no problem with this ban.
I also think it's kind of dumb in the US where we play the national anthem before every single sporting event. I'd rather just play it for international competitions or championship games. Game 97 of an MLB team or game 55 of an NBA season doesn't really need an anthem.
 
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Bit of a shame. Only time I've seen a helicopter perform a full loop was at European GP Brands Hatch. Military pilots need to keep currency and if they're not flying in front of a crowd they'll be using the same fuel where only spotters in the know can see them. Mildenhall Airshow is long gone too thanks to 9/11 🙁
 
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Couldn’t even see the flyover because of the grandstand canopy last time I was there. I’m there to see Ferrari win, not an air show.

Indeed - if I want to see an air show, I'll go to an air show...
 
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And 20 gas guzzling cars going round in circles is hardly a great advert for saving the planet, or am I missing something.
 
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And 20 gas guzzling cars going round in circles is hardly a great advert for saving the planet, or am I missing something.
Since the hybrid systems used in F1 trickled tech into production cars and the engine design tricks learned in F1 have helped raise fuel economy I’d say they have a net gain.
 
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Since the hybrid systems used in F1 trickled tech into production cars and the engine design tricks learned in F1 have helped raise fuel economy I’d say they have a net gain.
Even aside from the hybrid systems the direct injection and pre chamber ignition systems F1 has seen development of have pushed these petrol engines beyond what was previously thought to be the theoretical limit of gasoline engine efficiency, so much good tech has come from F1 over the years.

Nascar and many others don’t achieve much for the world but the money, competition and quality of engineers in F1 make it similar to the Apollo program in its stimulation or trickle down technology
 
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I also think it's kind of dumb in the US where we play the national anthem before every single sporting event. I'd rather just play it for international competitions or championship games. Game 97 of an MLB team or game 55 of an NBA season doesn't really need an anthem.

It's all a charade so people can claim they're all patriotic and support the troops while simultaneously doing sweet fυck all for homeless veterans etc. Same here in Australia with Anzac day. All for show. As a former soldier, I hate that crap.
 
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Since the hybrid systems used in F1 trickled tech into production cars and the engine design tricks learned in F1 have helped raise fuel economy I’d say they have a net gain.

Even aside from the hybrid systems the direct injection and pre chamber ignition systems F1 has seen development of have pushed these petrol engines beyond what was previously thought to be the theoretical limit of gasoline engine efficiency, so much good tech has come from F1 over the years.

Nascar and many others don’t achieve much for the world but the money, competition and quality of engineers in F1 make it similar to the Apollo program in its stimulation or trickle down technology

I’m not convinced that F1 is anywhere near being green, what is the mpg for an F1 car, 30, 40, 50mpg? What about the cost of their tyres, tyres that get used for less than 100 miles in most cases and you hear frequently that the tyre is shot after a couple of laps?

Yes F1 has given us some technology but at what cost to the the environment? The hybrid engines were in normal cars Toyota Prius well before F1 had them, yes F1 has refined that style of engine but it didn’t introduce them.

Don’t get me wrong I’m a fan of F1 but I do wonder what it brings to the table in terms of sustainability and its green credentials.
 
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I’m not convinced that F1 is anywhere near being green, what is the mpg for an F1 car, 30, 40, 50mpg? What about the cost of their tyres, tyres that get used for less than 100 miles in most cases and you hear frequently that the tyre is shot after a couple of laps?

Yes F1 has given us some technology but at what cost to the the environment? The hybrid engines were in normal cars Toyota Prius well before F1 had them, yes F1 has refined that style of engine but it didn’t introduce them.

Don’t get me wrong I’m a fan of F1 but I do wonder what it brings to the table in terms of sustainability and its green credentials.
More like 12MPG, but that’s while racing flat out, most super cars get like 1MPG with less drag when tracked, the heat recovery system, traction control, active ride control, carbon ceramic brakes, carbon fiber itself as a chassis material, a lot has come out of F1 and the driver aides have saved countless lives too
 
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Re Flypasts... Why does F1 need to give permission? The Red Arrows could just happen to be flying over Silverstone on a Sunday afternoon in July.
 
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Why all the kerfuffle over, what could be 5 minutes (National Anthem and flyover) out of several hours of racing? What is next, "We Race As One"?