Extract of the Archives - worth it?

Just thinking really - I have a few Omegas that aren't hugely valuable, but the anorak in me would like to know as much about them as I can. The thing is, the £100-odd to order an extract seems a lot if all it tells me is stuff I already know, other than when it was produced and where it was originally sent to.

Clearly, if I had a particularly unusual or £10,000 value watch, then an Extract would be desirable if not almost essential property to showcase its provenance.

But, if we're talking about a £1500 or £2000 watch, would having an Extract make any difference if and when it came to sell the watch on? I suppose it might make it slightly more desirable to a collector, but I can't see it adding enough to the price to make it worth the outlay and aggro.

Any thoughts or experiences?

I recently ordered one for my 145.022 for two reasons.

1.) I bought it as a "birth year" watch and wanted confirmation of its production year (turns out it was a year older than I expected).

2.) I was infinitely curious where my speedy started his life, which turns out was the United States.

If we're talking about Omega's from the 70s or earlier I wouldn't hesitate to order again. If we're talking about a watch from the 80s or sooner I'd probably pass.

I ordered one for a birth year Speedy, just for confirmation. For $150.00 a pop, I wouldn't waste the money, otherwise.

I have today just received an extract for my 145.022. I was hoping it would confirm it was produced in 1984 (my birth year) but alas it came back as 7th April 1983 and shipped to Spain.

The S/N suggested it would be 83 so I was not too surprised. I'm now questioning whether to sell it or hang onto it. It is in excellent original condition with a box and has just returned from Omega after a service.

The likelyhood of finding a documented 84 Speedmaster in such condition is going to be slim so I'll probably just hang onto it. I'll just tell myself it was sold by a OB in Spain during 84!

Mark

As it happens, I have a couple of Speedmaster Mark IIs that are less easy to authenticate than the Moon Watch... one has a very similar serial number to the one @Robert-Jan wrote about in https://www.fratellowatches.com/omega-speedmaster-mark-ii-145-014/ - from whence I quote:

"According to the extract of the archive I have with the watch (an old one though, from 2003) says the watch was delivered on November 16th in 1971 (at a price of 515 Swiss Francs, a Rolex Daytona 6262 sold at around 800 Swiss Francs at the time). However, the certificate also states that the movement production year is 1974. Somehow this doesn’t add up obviously."

So I'd be pretty cheesed if I'd spent £100 on an extract that gave me not only superfluous guff but also wrong info...

Got mine today for my 145.012-67 production was Oct 30, 1968. So learned that my watch was a little later than I had thought. Nice to have l'd say!

How cool would it be to have an extract from a Speedmaster that was your actual birth date?

I have three extracts. But really, I think only useful to validate a watch or fun to have if it is a birth year watch.

I have one for my vintage Ploprof. I felt it was worth the $150 to validate the movement, as this one does not have a display back and it is not so easy to have the movement removed from the case to validate.

I also have one for my Ed White.

I will most likely obtain one for each of my Speedmasters as part of my Decades Collection. Just need to source an 80s gold tone (or solid gold) speedy.

Thanks all - I've taken the plunge and ordered the extract for one of my SMIIs - will see what comes of it 😀

The one I bought was for my daughter's birth year. The watch was sold in July of 1990 so I figured I would use that date if the extract was too far off. It turns out that movement was produced less than two months before purchase and less than 30 days after my daughter was born. I wasn't expecting it would be that close to both dates.

I had a tooth extracted today and it hurt like hell, but it was worth it. sorry trying to fluff my posts.

So, you're a fluffer? Not that there's anything wrong with that.

"Clearly, if I had a particularly unusual or £10,000 value watch, then an Extract would be desirable if not almost essential property to showcase its provenance. But, if we're talking about a £1500 or £2000 watch, would having an Extract make any difference if and when it came to sell the watch on?" (quote)



Evening everybody. (depending on where you are on the planet???) This is a very topical thread for me as I am about to order an extract from Omega tomorrow.

I took my Dad's 105.012-65 in to STS for a clean and service on Monday and saw inside it for the first time in 52 years. Simon opened up the watch and gave me the 321 movement serial number.

My case reference is 105.012-65.
My serial number begins with 2453XXXX.
1965's latest serial number is 24527XXX.
1966 serial numbers begin at 2453XXXX.
I asked him if that meant the watch could be incorrect. I couldn't see that being the case, as my Dad had the watch when I was a kid in the mid to late 1960's and I can't imagine he would have changed the movement. No reason to. The watch was always working fine.

I am aware that during assembly there can be some overlap with regard to end of year- start of year parts. Also I'm being told it is not unusual by the senior technician at Swiss Time Services. Apart from hands and crown, he said the watch is totally in order.
He did however agree that considering it's a tropical dial, pre-moon 105-012 in good condition with original DO90 bezel, crystal and pushers, it would be a good idea to obtain the extract of the archives document from Omega. It would be nice to see the case reference and movement number on a certificate.

Oh well... more expense and a little more anxiety!🙁 (I'll include some pictures because we need some in this thread.)

Don't fluffers play a crucial role in the film industry Eric?😟

That's what the urban dictionary says.

Blimey!... Do ya think ya can book em once a week... on an hourly rate???😕