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@Taddyangle , 2015 in fact. How time flies!!
This is an interesting dynamic. There are groups of collectors who purcased watches years ago at seemingly huge discounts and groups who are starting now at much higher prices. The question of future prices is on the minds of both groups, reflected in the OPs initial question. Another question not expressly stated is the effect these new prices will have on the community.
As a member of the group who recently arrived (also an older member), it hurts when I see Ron Evans 18k gold SM sold for $11,995 in 2009. (https://historical.ha.com/itm/explo...036.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515). That is one example of the huge price increase of which everyone is aware. There are many more examples that raise the green envy monster in me.
I think of these vintage watch prices like any other commodity. There is an inherent value combined with rarity that sparks the imagination of the public and makes them desirable to both collectors and non- collectors alike. This is true for vintage SMs.
I wish I thought to buy an Ed White watch years ago. I also wish I bought a Porsche 912 a few years ago for a quarter of what they cost now. But I didn't. What used to be the cheaper and less desirable alternative to the 911 is overtaking it's bigger brother.
What I did recently buy is a beautiful 145.012 67 with a great case, black dial and gorgeous patina lume. And I paid the full asking price without hesitation. Risky? Sure. But my risk is lowered because it is in such nice condition and I care less about the risk because of the joy I get staring at it.
"Condition, condition, condition." As been said many times before, this rule will sustain the price levels in my opinion. Are some poorer examples overpriced? Probably. But completely rusted 21 window VW Sambas are getting 60k and that is crazy too.
The sad thing is that it's going to price out most collectors. There may be more collectors with one or two special vintage SMs as opposed to the seemingly many now with dozens. (Grandpa's watch collection is going to fund a lot of future college educations and downpayments on houses.)
Final note, while I don't own an Ed White watch, I do have a nice Ed White autograph over a picture of his spacewalk. That might be as close as I get. Unless you hoarders release some. 😁
I remember wondering whether to buy an Aston Martin V8 from the 1970s, or a DBS (same body shape, but six cylinder engine before the V8 was ready) when you could get one for about £25,000. I'd have quadrupled my money, but I'd probably have spent every single day worrying about it.
And maybe spent £25K keeping it running, such is the reality of older exotic ownership lol.
See now posting that here is relevant. Posting it on the guy's thread advertising his 105.003-65 was less helpful possibly lol.
Whatever, a reappraisal of the actual EW iteration doesn't really affect the desirability of the -65 since that was introduced post the space walk so was never considered 'the one'
I remember wondering whether to buy an Aston Martin V8 from the 1970s, or a DBS (same body shape, but six cylinder engine before the V8 was ready) when you could get one for about £25,000. I'd have quadrupled my money, but I'd probably have spent every single day worrying about it.
....needless to say the Jag was still a money pit during my few years of ownership 🙄
I once knew a guy named Norm who had a pristine XKE. When I first saw it, I said, "Hey Norm, I heard parts were expensive for this thing." He said, "Yeah, they're pricey, but that's not the worst of it. It's keeping a full-time mechanic on staff that's really killing me."
Show of hands- how many people have their watchmaker in their phone contacts- same thing 😉