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gbesq
·Two of mine, a 167.005 on the left and a 14900 on the right. It’s getting to be a bit*h to find them in this condition for a reasonable price.
Dog leg lugs buying experience.
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Banner Roar
·Both of my dog leg examples (14900 and 168.005) were found in auctions over the last 5 years.
Including auction fees both cost <2k USD.
Including auction fees both cost <2k USD.
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JohnSteed
·nice revival of a great thread . . . noobies take note
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krogerfoot
·nice revival of a great thread . . . noobies take note
None of the watches below were terribly expensive when I got them, even factoring in service and sourcing the BOR bracelets for the two non–pie-pan models, but it would cost considerably more to do the same thing now. If something catches your eye and you can afford to throw away the money without starving, no reason to wait. As I always say when justifying some unnecessary purchase to myself, I'd be losing money not to buy it.
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norb1967
·I’m looking at buying one at the moment. Proving hard to find at reasonable prices. The market is a bit funny
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hoipolloi
·I’m looking at buying one at the moment. Proving hard to find at reasonable prices. The market is a bit funny
Pie pan/dome. Black onyx inserts / lume/ black painted. Small marker at 3 ( date version) Date/ No date.
Gold/ gold capped/ SS. Unpolished/ polished. Correct crown and bracelet etc..
They are the factors that you have to look at before deciding to buy one.
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norb1967
·Condition is the most important and the dial is the one must be perfect.
Pie pan/dome. Black onyx inserts / lume/ black painted. Small marker at 3 ( date version) Date/ No date.
Gold/ gold capped/ SS. Unpolished/ polished. Correct crown and bracelet etc..
They are the factors that you have to look at before deciding to buy one.
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unxsr
·Thank you for the write up! This makes me want one.
Is there somewhere I can read about the difference between ref 14900/14902/167.005 and 168.005?
Is there somewhere I can read about the difference between ref 14900/14902/167.005 and 168.005?
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norb1967
·Thank you for the write up! This makes me want one.
Is there somewhere I can read about the difference between ref 14900/14902/167.005 and 168.005?
14902 and 168.005 w/ date
As for the difference between the refs, I read somewhere that it was just Omega changing their naming scheme around this time, therefore changing the ref. However I think they also added ‘officially certified’ text below chronometer on the dial a little later on with the later ref.
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers14900 and 167.005 w/o date
14902 and 168.005 w/ date
As for the difference between the refs, I read somewhere that it was just Omega changing their naming scheme around this time, therefore changing the ref. However I think they also added ‘officially certified’ text below chronometer on the dial a little later on with the later ref.
you’re right about the naming convention which happened ‘63.
the cases for each are very similar excepting case makers variations.
The dial text topic is a little more complicated.
This was an Omega experiment from around 58/59-62/63.
Predominately featured on 14381/14393 references but also infrequently on refs 2852 and 168.004
There are 14900/14902s with both full text dials and missing text dials.
There are a very few 167.005/168.005s with missing text dials but some do occur - probably a hangover from existing dial stock. ( similarly the 168.004)
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norb1967
·you’re right about the naming convention which happened ‘63.
the cases for each are very similar excepting case makers variations.
The dial text topic is a little more complicated.
This was an Omega experiment from around 58/59-62/63.
Predominately featured on 14381/14393 references but also infrequently on refs 2852 and 168.004
There are 14900/14902s with both full text dials and missing text dials.
There are a very few 167.005/168.005s with missing text dials but some do occur - probably a hangover from existing dial stock. ( similarly the 168.004)
Would this have been something done at servicing by Omega?
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersI’ve seen one 14900 owned by a collector where the officially certified text appeared to be added later (and this was not a redial).
Would this have been something done at servicing by Omega?
we’d have to see pics to comment properly.
It’s not something I’ve heard of Omega doing ( why would they if it was produced without originally)
Sometimes printing can vary ( affected by moisture etc) and so can look different but if it has been added then it may not be a full redial but it would certainly have been altered and thus affect collectibility / value.
pics would mean everything in this particular case.
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MtV
·I’ve noted that, too, here’s the example I first saw it on. An early 14900 by @seekingseaquest - hope you don’t mind me posting it for you. The „Officially Certified“ text is clearly lighter than the other printing, suggesting it was added at a different time.
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norb1967
·I’ve noted that, too, here’s the example I first saw it on. An early 14900 by @seekingseaquest - hope you don’t mind me posting it for you. The „Officially Certified“ text is clearly lighter than the other printing, suggesting it was added at a different time.
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seekingseaquest
·I’ve noted that, too, here’s the example I first saw it on. An early 14900 by @seekingseaquest - hope you don’t mind me posting it for you. The „Officially Certified“ text is clearly lighter than the other printing, suggesting it was added at a different time.
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norb1967
·I want to ask - I’m looking at a dog leg with a date and there’s a magnifier over the date. Am I right in saying that this was something a customer could opt for at service or would it have come with this from the factory?
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersI want to ask - I’m looking at a dog leg with a date and there’s a magnifier over the date. Am I right in saying that this was something a customer could opt for at service or would it have come with this from the factory?
Date magnifiers could be added as special order as Omega originals but presumably could also be added at service.
No way of telling at this stage which it is.
If it has the Omega symbol in the centre it is kosher, if it doesn't, it's not.
Personally, I think they are an aberration on a Constellation and should be left to Rolex to rock them but some folks like them.
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norb1967
·Date magnifiers could be added as special order as Omega originals but presumably could also be added at service.
No way of telling at this stage which it is.
If it has the Omega symbol in the centre it is kosher, if it doesn't, it's not.
Personally, I think they are an aberration on a Constellation and should be left to Rolex to rock them but some folks like them.
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norb1967
·What year did the first dog leg come out (14900)? Was it 1960 or late 50s?
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hoipolloi
·Omega said 1960
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