Does a High End Watch stop being such when it becomes vintage?

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In one way, the iWatch is as much a watch as a computer is a filing cabinet.

Still, the iWatch was designed in the form of a watch, is advertised and displayed as a watch, and was intended to serve as a watch that could do other things.

A phone was not intended to be a time checking device - it was designed to make calls. Is my desk not a desk but a table, because I never sit in it, but rather just pile stuff on it? Is a car not a car if one sleeps in it more than one drives in it?

I don't know man.... these are kind of silly questions.

Good points. Still i think it's a communication device. Even on the comercial time keeping seems to be the last, if at all, aspect of focus. But, anyway, even as a watch I wouldn't consider it a high end watch, but I would definitely consider it a high end gadget.
 
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Good points. Still i think it's a communication device. Even on the comercial time keeping seems to be the last, if at all, aspect of focus. But, anyway, even as a watch I wouldn't consider it a high end watch, but I would definitely consider it a high end gadget.

Hmm - this is true, but how many iPhone commercials do you see focusing on the iPhone's ability to make calls? The focus will always be on what "else" it can do!
 
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Hmm - this is true, but how many iPhone commercials do you see focusing on the iPhone's ability to make calls? The focus will always be on what "else" it can do!
Which is why I place them both under the same umbrella. High end communication devices. As I said before, most people check time, email, text, or browse the omega forum far more minutes per hour than call through their iPhone or Android or whatever smart phone they use
 
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That being said - it seems that it is actually a big part of their advertising:



I don't think so. That's more about design ( and that bracelet is just amazing) than time keeping no? In the whole 2 minutes I count about 10 to 15 seconds of clock view. And a lot more eye candy on design clasps etc. And it is a very attractive design for sure.
 
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This is true - but the only function of the watch displayed in the advertisement is of its timekeeping abilities.

Points taken about it being a communications device. I think this is just about semantics.
 
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It's time you regulated your watch then! 😉
I can regulate them all I like - and I do enjoy trying to tune them to my wearing habits after regulating them statically - but once they have stopped, they need winding and setting. I now have three on the winder for "grab and go" mornings - a Breitling with an annual calendar and moonphase; a Cartier that hurts your fingers to wind; the SM 300 Master Co-axial because it is new and in warranty.
 
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Which is why I place them both under the same umbrella. High end communication devices.

..... but do they meet the definition of "high-end" as far as communication devices go, or are they just miniature communications devices?

Where's "Q" when you need him?
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..... but do they meet the definition of "high-end" as far as communication devices go, or are they just miniature communications devices?

Where's "Q" hen you need him?

Q would dismiss them as low-end because there's nothing lethal about them except the price tag.
 
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..... but do they meet the definition of "high-end" as far as communication devices go, or are they just miniature communications devices?

Where's "Q" hen you need him?
To me they do meet the high end category within the smart watch/ communication device category. That's what apple does best, takes something that exists at one level and just bring it up to a design and finishing level that is a little ahead of the curve, but without stepping so far ahead that they become unreliable. They are conservative on the technology side, but way ahead on the design and on applied technology.
 
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I think the appropriate question here, does high price = high end, which is probably more in line with what OP is asking? Personally i would think so, for example rolex or benz r luxury items but not quite high end, but would u consider PN Daytona or 300SL gull wings not high end?
 
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..... but do they meet the definition of "high-end" as far as communication devices go, or are they just miniature communications devices?

Where's "Q" when you need him?
Is this the same Q im thinking? [emoji16]
 
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I think the appropriate question here, does high price = high end, which is probably more in line with what OP is asking? Personally i would think so, for example rolex or benz r luxury items but not quite high end, but would u consider PN Daytona or 300SL gull wings not high end?
The Daytona is not a high end watch. It's an expensive watch but it was conceived as a low level or mid level Rolex chrono and only got its standing by the relationship with a high end actor; Paul Newman. But the watch was a not priced or marketed as high end by rolex at inception.

Movement wise the Zenith el primero was the superior chrono, and it is the Primero modified movement that established the automatic chrono standing of the Daytona. still then, the Zenith is not a high end watch albeit a great watch.

I write this without prejudice, I have and love a Daytona.

The 300 SL is also not a high end car when compared to a Bentley or a Rolls or a lambo etc or rather, if the 300 so is high end, what are them....super high end?

Luxury is not ways high end, nor is expensive.
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The Daytona is not a high end watch. It's an expensive watch but it was conceived as a low level or mid level Rolex chrono and only got its standing by the relationship with a high end actor; Paul Newman. But the watch was a not priced or marketed as high end by rolex at inception.

Movement wise the Zenith el primero was the superior chrono, and it is the Primero modified movement that established the automatic chrono standing of the Daytona. still then, the Zenith is not a high end watch albeit a great watch.

I write this without prejudice, I have and love a Daytona.

The 300 SL is also not a high end car when compared to a Bentley or a Rolls or a lambo etc or rather, if the 300 so is high end, what are them....super high end?

Luxury is not ways high end, nor is expensive.

I agree for the most part but i would still think when a certain watch has achieve certain cult status n demand an outrageous price, it qualifies as being hi-end. Given a choice, for the same money n in the same condition, i would choose 300sl over any bentleys.

Lets say we agree to disagree? [emoji122]
 
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Yep, agree to disagree.

On that note, I have two omega PO 45.5 2500 d cal for sale. One is the normal one posted in this forum but if anyone is interested on the high end version please PM me. it's identical to the one posted but it's 18g plus shipping because, well, because it's high end.!
 
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I think the OP likes being a troll here. Please don't feed the trolls.
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Id think this question depends on a bunch of things or whose buying it, but my answer would be that if it was high end when it was made, then it would still be high end for its era, just like the Vintage duesenburgs or farraris back in the day.