Do you consider the Speedmaster to be a luxury watch?

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Not sure where I stand on this one but here's my experience. For my 21st birthday my parents wanted to buy me a watch and gave me the choice with a price limit of £65, quite a bit of money in the dark ages! I whittled it down to a choice between a Speedmaster and a Rolex Submariner at that time both were about the same price, on that basis if you consider the Sub a luxury watch then the Speedy should be too. I choose the Speedmaster because at that time I went to a lot of motor race meetings and wanted to use it for timing. It is a 105.003-65 which then meant nothing to me. I used it as my everyday watch for forty years including going dingy sailing which inevitably led to the occasional soaking, so it was certainly treated as a tool watch.
For my 60th birthday my wife bought me a gold Seamaster Aqua Terra which I would definitely class as a luxury watch and it is treated as such, although ironically at today's values it is not worth anything like as much as the Speedmaster.
What does this prove? No idea!

Interesting, but I think the two watches were a bit more comparable 40 years ago. Today the standard Submariner has seen many upgrades, while the Speedmaster had not. Sub-C is my daily more or less. It is so much more substantial than the classic 14060, which always felt a bit flimsy and cheap to me. I know they have updated versions of the Speedmaster available, but the classic still costs a fortune.
 
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They go together 😉

Hence the interest of many of us for vintage watches... devoid of pretentious and polluting marketing influence!

(vintage speedies aside, it's a bit more complex for them it seems!)


ahh yes... the NEED for a helium escape valve on the Seamaster 300.... for the hundreds of thousands of deep water saturation divers out there...
 
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ahh yes... the NEED for a helium escape valve on the Seamaster 300.... for the hundreds of thousands of deep water saturation divers out there...

ahh yes... the NEED for a tachymetre bezel (with a wandering dot) on the Speedmaster.... for the hundreds of thousands of vehicle drivers out there who are lacking a speedometer...

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ahh yes... the NEED for a tachymetre bezel (with a wandering dot) on the Speedmaster.... for the hundreds of thousands of vehicle drivers out there who are lacking a speedometer...

😜

LOL

I guess the difference between a tachymeter and a helium escape valve, is that anyone could use a tachymeter to time something... hardly anyone could use a helium escape valve.

Do we have any deep saturation divers here?
 
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For me the speedmaster is a classic watch regardless of where you choose to pigeon hole it I'd call it a tool watch (surely the ultimate example having been to the moon) much like the sea dweller is to Rolex fans (with the deep sea diving Comex connection), not sure you'll find a "watch person" that doesn't rate and admire the speedy.

As for a luxury watch for me they are more about finishing and pm materials and cost a lot more.
 
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Any watch that costs 1K -10K IMO is out of the reach or consideration of most folks and thus entry level luxury . Lots of definitions out there. Like @tyrantlizardrex ...its all relative to how much puffery is expended to a point. That said when you get to the big 4, JLC etc who obviously invest a lot of resource into finishing...I'd call those luxury watches (>10K new). I would classify a new manual wind Speedy Pro as entry level luxury as I would most of the Rolex sport models. Its all pretty silly when you consider that most people just gasp at anyone buying a watch that cost more than 500 bucks.
 
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Its all pretty silly when you consider that most people just gasp at anyone buying a watch that cost more than 500 bucks.

Too true!

Let's not forget there are likely more of this little guy out there on peoples wrists than anything else... and it costs $10.

 
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Or its Timex cousins.
 
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In my mind, I certainly consider the Speedmaster to be a luxury watch. It may not have a COSC certified movement or a fancy bracelet, but what you're buying is a beautifully made tool watch with an amazing history meant to withstand the depths of outer space. It may be more functional than flashy, but if that doesn't qualify as a luxury watch for the average consumer I don't know what would.
 
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I bought my speedmaster after seeing George Clooney wearing one. I was like wow, I need to buy a speedmaster.
 
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Anything Omega makes is luxury and to most people completely unnecessary, but it doesn't stop people buying them. No one needs a Ferrari or a Porsche but people still buy them.
 
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I bought my speedmaster after seeing George Clooney wearing one. I was like wow, I need to buy a speedmaster.

Did he cuddle you afterwards?
 
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In my mind, I certainly consider the Speedmaster to be a luxury watch. It may not have a COSC certified movement or a fancy bracelet, but what you're buying is a beautifully made tool watch with an amazing history meant to withstand the depths of outer space. It may be more functional than flashy, but if that doesn't qualify as a luxury watch for the average consumer I don't know what would.
Quick correction: the Speedmaster was never made to go into outer space. Omega made it as a GADA sport watch/chrono (they marketed it as such). NASA just tested pre-made chronos without any modifications and the Speedmaster is the only watch that survived all of the tests and remained accurate.

Note this doesn't mean it's a particularly durable movement in this day and age; modern movements are infinitely more durable.
 
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My 0.02, I do not see the Speedmaster as a luxury watch. I consider it "High End Utility".

When dressing for an event, Casual or Business Casual is a Speedmaster. Smart or Business dress is a Rolex. Sorry guys....
 
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Quick correction: the Speedmaster was never made to go into outer space. Omega made it as a GADA sport watch/chrono (they marketed it as such). NASA just tested pre-made chronos without any modifications and the Speedmaster is the only watch that survived all of the tests and remained accurate.

Note this doesn't mean it's a particularly durable movement in this day and age; modern movements are infinitely more durable.
You're right, my mistake. I'm relatively new to Speedy history, so forgive me for that one. However, my general point still stands: they withstood NASA testing and were sent to space. You may not be purchasing the most technologically advanced watch given the advancements in horology since the 60's, but you're still getting a finely made timepiece with major ties to the history of mankind. Even if it's not the most durable movement around, I'm sure Omega would not continue to sell it if it was unable to withstand the rigors of daily wear.
 
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considering that most $10-$15 dollar digital watches keep pretty accurate time, yes and no, it is a matter of perspective. There are some who see $500 as a luxury watch, $1000 extravagant. However to those who enjoy watches, some say no. I don't, I can see their merits, and back then when I bought the speedy reduced as my first "higher end watch" i did consider them luxury. But now as I continue to enjoy the hobby and buy other higher end pieces, no the speedmaster is not to me, as they can be had almost as low as $2800 in some grey market dealers. I did pay for NIB for my brother's birthday as it was his grail watch however, but not msrp at the omega boutique.
 
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You're right, my mistake. I'm relatively new to Speedy history, so forgive me for that one. However, my general point still stands: they withstood NASA testing and were sent to space. You may not be purchasing the most technologically advanced watch given the advancements in horology since the 60's, but you're still getting a finely made timepiece with major ties to the history of mankind. Even if it's not the most durable movement around, I'm sure Omega would not continue to sell it if it was unable to withstand the rigors of daily wear.
Oh for sure, I wear an 1861 chrono almost every day: