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Distribution of Speedmaster 321 & Snoopy 50th

Ralvari
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Hello all,

I'm wondering if in your countries you have the evidence that these two pieces of 2020 has been already distributed out of the Omega Boutiques. I live in Spain and I did and order the same day that they were announced (7 Jan 2020 and Oct 5th) to one of the biggest Omega distributors in Spain, but I'm saying that Omega haven't (yet?) distributed them to the non Omega Boutiques.

Thanks for your comments 馃榾
 
Rado63
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The online sales directs you to an Omega Boutique. My closest Omega dealer is not a boutique, and I was told they are not likely to receive the watch and since I have low purchase history with this Omega dealer, it is doubtful they will call me if they do receive either the 321 or silver snoopy. Ask the dealer you are working with if it is even likely they will receive either watch.
 
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The boutique here in Michigan said they only delivered one Snoopy so far. So I think they鈥檙e really scarce in the USA.
 
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I'd be shocked to see them at ADs vs boutiques any time soon
 
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Haven't heard about major Omega Authorized Dealers in California getting either of them. Boutiques however have delivered a few of both models.
 
Ralvari
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Thanks, so it's the same worldwide... What could be the strategy behind the decision of not serving the Omega dealers? I could understand but Is Omega shooting itself in the foot?
 
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Ralvari Ralvari
Thanks, so it's the same worldwide... What could be the strategy behind the decision of not serving the Omega dealers? I could understand but Is Omega shooting itself in the foot?

Omega sells the watch for the retail price to the end consumer through the OB while selling it to the AD at whole sale who then sells it at retail price.
 
Ralvari
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Omega sells the watch for the retail price to the end consumer through the OB while selling it to the AD at whole sale who then sells it at retail price.
Yes, as they are doing with almost the rest of the Omega Collection. Using only AD for "normal" products and not the most demanding ones is, IMHO a very bad policy and message. If you are a partner you should stay for bad, normal and good moments. It's imply in the partners definition. Even Rolex serves "hot references" to their boutiques and also to the dealers.
 
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Ralvari Ralvari
Yes, as they are doing with almost the rest of the Omega Collection. Using only AD for "normal" products and not the most demanding ones is, IMHO a very bad policy and message. If you are a partner you should stay for bad, normal and good moments. It's imply in the partners definition. Even Rolex serves "hot references" to their boutiques and also to the dealers.
Part of the difficulty is the hot / in demand watches have had issues with ADs keeping customers orders and selling them at a premium on eBay, scalping, etc. Rolex carefully audits all of their ADs, enforces far stricter controls and even use fake buyers to keep the ADs in line, and still a lot of their high demand watches end up on the grey market.

I remember a few years ago I think it was the Speedy Tuesday that someone had a fully paid up order on with receipt and the dealer blatantly had the watch sitting on eBay for a higher than msrp price, brand new in box.
 
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Ralvari Ralvari
Yes, as they are doing with almost the rest of the Omega Collection. Using only AD for "normal" products and not the most demanding ones is, IMHO a very bad policy and message. If you are a partner you should stay for bad, normal and good moments. It's imply in the partners definition. Even Rolex serves "hot references" to their boutiques and also to the dealers.
One difference between Rolex and Omega. Rolex doesn't own any boutiques. All of the Rolex boutiques you see are owned by another company that has a license to operate as a Rolex boutique. Omega actually owns their own boutiques (at least in the US).
 
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texasmade texasmade
One difference between Rolex and Omega. Rolex doesn't own any boutiques. All of the Rolex boutiques you see are owned by another company that has a license to operate as a Rolex boutique. Omega actually owns their own boutiques (at least in the US).

Same goes for Switzerland when I lived there.
 
Ralvari
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dsio dsio
Part of the difficulty is the hot / in demand watches have had issues with ADs keeping customers orders and selling them at a premium on eBay, scalping, etc. Rolex carefully audits all of their ADs, enforces far stricter controls and even use fake buyers to keep the ADs in line, and still a lot of their high demand watches end up on the grey market.

I remember a few years ago I think it was the Speedy Tuesday that someone had a fully paid up order on with receipt and the dealer blatantly had the watch sitting on eBay for a higher than msrp price, brand new in box.

The point is not the grey market. You only need to look for these models in Chrono24. And they only has been sold (so far) in OB.

texasmade texasmade
One difference between Rolex and Omega. Rolex doesn't own any boutiques. All of the Rolex boutiques you see are owned by another company that has a license to operate as a Rolex boutique. Omega actually owns their own boutiques (at least in the US).

Yes, you are right, but Omega is not only selling through their OB, but through the AD. Does it will mean that Omega will only serve ADs with "normal" watches but not the highly demanded ones?
 
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Rolex doesn't have boutiques.
The two models cannot be exactly compared.
Anyway, Omega will be placing hot references, including limited editions and limited productions, preferentially to the Omega boutiques.
ADs will get some, but will get less. It depends how big the AD is, and how many OBs are present serving a specific geographic area.
What they are doing is pretty clear, they are doing it under the sunlight, and it makes sense to me.

Boutiques first. AD second. Of course!
 
Pepe Lucas
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I think that the ADs and their willingness of giving really big discounts afects the resale value of most pieces. By using the boutiques first in the long run will be better for Omega as a company and the watches won鈥檛 depreciate as much.
 
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Agree with that. I think they just need to be clear with ADs and ensure they are not put in a bad situation business wise. Should treat partners well and with respect which I am sure they will.
 
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Ralvari Ralvari
Yes, as they are doing with almost the rest of the Omega Collection. Using only AD for "normal" products and not the most demanding ones is, IMHO a very bad policy and message. If you are a partner you should stay for bad, normal and good moments. It's imply in the partners definition. Even Rolex serves "hot references" to their boutiques and also to the dealers.
You are absolutely correct. Though I think with just a few exceptions in some major locations, Rolex does not have boutiques. Rolex always favours local people to run retail. Unlike Omega, which is just profit oriented and will shoot itself even in the head for a few cents more.
 
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rominvicta rominvicta
You are absolutely correct. Though I think with just a few exceptions in some major locations, Rolex does not have boutiques. Rolex always favours local people to run retail. Unlike Omega, which is just profit oriented and will shoot itself even in the head for a few cents more.
So Rolex is a non for profit company? I would think that their model is worse for the real customers/ enthusiasts that want a watch and can鈥檛 get it through ADs.
 
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So Rolex is a non for profit company? I would think that their model is worse for the real customers/ enthusiasts that want a watch and can鈥檛 get it through ADs.
This always blows my mind that people think just because Rolex is owned by a charitable trust that they aren't pursuing profits. Rolex still needs to make money and remain a going concern. The employees and vendors/suppliers of Rolex aren't going to be paid in Rolex watches or Rolex goodwill. Rolex not being publicly owned just means that they don't have outside investors pressuring them for ST results.
 
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texasmade texasmade
This always blows my mind that people think just because Rolex is owned by a charitable trust that they aren't pursuing profits. Rolex still needs to make money and remain a going concern. The employees and vendors/suppliers of Rolex aren't going to be paid in Rolex watches or Rolex goodwill. Rolex not being publicly owned just means that they don't have outside investors pressuring them for ST results.
I know, my point exactly.
 
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