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Lazy_Lightning
·Nice - wide "O" porcelain dial
Thank you, I can see that’s yours is quite nice as well. The white dial makes it stand out.
Different patina Hands/Dial Rolex 16570
Thank you, I can see that’s yours is quite nice as well. The white dial makes it stand out.
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CoDiffe
·Thank you, I can see that’s yours is quite nice as well. The white dial makes it stand out.
What year is yours? I’ve been told the porcelain dials are not common. The wide “O” in Explorer along with the slightly different shade of white.
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mattonthewater
·Pretty common actually.
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TJH
·I have an 'R' serial 16610 Submariner from 1989 which was my father's watch from new. He wore it daily for almost twenty years before leaving it in his desk drawer when he got into chronographs but never had it serviced. I have it now 😉. It has lovely patina on the markers but virtually none on the hands and neither glow. Apologies for the lack of pictures, I'm travelling at the moment...
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JwRosenthal
·I have an 'R' serial 16610 Submariner from 1989 which was my father's watch from new. He wore it daily for almost twenty years before leaving it in his desk drawer when he got into chronographs but never had it serviced. I have it now 😉. It has lovely patina on the markers but virtually none on the hands and neither glow. Apologies for the lack of pictures, I'm travelling at the moment...
This is why I always raise an eyebrow when people are so quick to jump on a watch as a redial/relume/ replacement hands....some are very obvious, but some are not.
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swish77
·Does the OP know whether the hands are tritium or luminova? (A flashlight/UV light would tell you immediately.) If they're tritium, they could be original to the watch. Tons of examples of hands/dials not taking on patina at the same rate on old Rolexes.
Either way, just because the patina doesn't match doesn't mean the hands have been replaced (assuming they're not luminova). Maybe, maybe not. The issue is whether it bugs you. I'd much rather have matching patina, and wouldn't buy a vintage/classic Rolex that had an extreme mismatch like the OP's example, regardless of whether it was all-original or not. It definitely affects value/collectibility.
This is not a rare reference. Plenty of examples out there to buy. I'd be patient and look for a better one.
Either way, just because the patina doesn't match doesn't mean the hands have been replaced (assuming they're not luminova). Maybe, maybe not. The issue is whether it bugs you. I'd much rather have matching patina, and wouldn't buy a vintage/classic Rolex that had an extreme mismatch like the OP's example, regardless of whether it was all-original or not. It definitely affects value/collectibility.
This is not a rare reference. Plenty of examples out there to buy. I'd be patient and look for a better one.
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Lazy_Lightning
·What year is yours? I’ve been told the porcelain dials are not common. The wide “O” in Explorer along with the slightly different shade of white.
Mine os from 1991.
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AS69
·Does the OP know whether the hands are tritium or luminova? (A flashlight/UV light would tell you immediately.) If they're tritium, they could be original to the watch. Tons of examples of hands/dials not taking on patina at the same rate on old Rolexes.
Either way, just because the patina doesn't match doesn't mean the hands have been replaced (assuming they're not luminova). Maybe, maybe not. The issue is whether it bugs you. I'd much rather have matching patina, and wouldn't buy a vintage/classic Rolex that had an extreme mismatch like the OP's example, regardless of whether it was all-original or not. It definitely affects value/collectibility.
This is not a rare reference. Plenty of examples out there to buy. I'd be patient and look for a better one.
Hi and thanks for the answers guys!
Well the seller told me the hands was original (tritium) and the reason why hands and dial didn’t match was that at that time (end of 80’s) they used to produce dial and hands at different time. So when then assembled everything together, dial could be 1 or 2 years old and hands, freshly new.
But still.. I’m thinking of finding a nice 16570 tritium dial and hands matching
(Sorry for my English .. haha)
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killer67
·This is true - hands came from different batches so they often do not match but these are dramatically lighter and hard to believe they are original. The ability to find closer matching tritium hands is always a possibility and if the price is right, it may be the way to go
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JwRosenthal
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This I agree with- arguing originality doesn’t matter if you don’t find it visually appealing. (In the hypothetical) If the watch is a perspective purchase, and you don’t find the hands/dial combo appealing- just pass. If it’s already owned, then finding another set of hands with a closer match to dial lume isn’t hard, or find hands that are trashed and have them relumed to match (and keep the ones that came with the watch for the next owner to decide what they like).
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