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abrod520
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There are many douchebags and toughguys behind the keyboard, if you are sensitive to name calling or being bashed it's simple don't post on the internet.

Increasingly, using the internet is a necessity for work or staying connected with friends, not an activity. And I think you'd have a different perspective if you weren't a man - ask any of the women in your life about their experiences on the internet - read a few of the messages they get on social media and dating apps etc, it's eye-opening.

And why can't we try to make it better for everyone? I'm sure way back, there were people saying "Well, we can't accurately measure time, and never will. So we should stop trying" - and look where we are now
 
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[QUOTE="abrod520, post: 977071, member: 16910"]Increasingly, using the internet is a necessity for work or staying connected with friends, not an activity. And I think you'd have a different perspective if you weren't a man - ask any of the women in your life about their experiences on the internet - read a few of the messages they get on social media and dating apps etc, it's eye-opening.

And why can't we try to make it better for everyone? I'm sure way back, there were people saying "Well, we can't accurately measure time, and never will. So we should stop trying" - and look where we are now[/QUOTE]

You are correct, many people need to use the internet for work. Using it for work, and posting on forum websites (whatever they may be) are two totally different things in my opinion. I would say connecting with friends is an activity. I'm not condoning acting like an ass, I'm just saying when you put yourself out there you are going to get good and bad whether you like it or not.
 
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I'm in four pages & still no cyber bullying 🙁. This thread needs reporting as a gross misrepresentation of a headline .[humour]
 
abrod520
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Using it for work, and posting on forum websites (whatever they may be) are two totally different things in my opinion. I would say connecting with friends is an activity.

Well, there are people who depend on Twitter for their jobs, especially journalists or as public figures otherwise. Established politicians and superstars can employ social media managers to filter this stuff out, but many people who are working their way up need to pay attention to their mentions. When they're full of racist / sexist remarks, death or rape threats, it's hard to go through to try to read legitimate messages.
As for staying connected with friends on social media - do you really believe we should have to accept abuse in order to stay in touch with old friends who have moved away / we have moved away from?
The worst of it are the messages women get in dating apps. Again, ask any single (or recently single) woman in your life about her experiences using them. It's absolutely batshit the messages they get -consider too that that's just the tip of the iceberg - and there's no good reason to just throw our hands up and say "oh well, that's the way it is"
 
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abrod520 abrod520
Well, there are people who depend on Twitter for their jobs, especially journalists or as public figures otherwise. Established politicians and superstars can employ social media managers to filter this stuff out, but many people who are working their way up need to pay attention to their mentions. When they're full of racist / sexist remarks, death or rape threats, it's hard to go through to try to read legitimate messages.
As for staying connected with friends on social media - do you really believe we should have to accept abuse in order to stay in touch with old friends who have moved away / we have moved away from?
The worst of it are the messages women get in dating apps. Again, ask any single (or recently single) woman in your life about her experiences using them. It's absolutely batshit the messages they get, and there's no good reason to just throw our hands up and say "oh well, that's the way it is"

THIS.
 
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abrod520 abrod520
Well, there are people who depend on Twitter for their jobs, especially journalists or as public figures otherwise. Established politicians and superstars can employ social media managers to filter this stuff out, but many people who are working their way up need to pay attention to their mentions. When they're full of racist / sexist remarks, death or rape threats, it's hard to go through to try to read legitimate messages.
As for staying connected with friends on social media - do you really believe we should have to accept abuse in order to stay in touch with old friends who have moved away / we have moved away from?
The worst of it are the messages women get in dating apps. Again, ask any single (or recently single) woman in your life about her experiences using them. It's absolutely batshit the messages they get -consider too that that's just the tip of the iceberg - and there's no good reason to just throw our hands up and say "oh well, that's the way it is"

Thank you for proving my point.
 
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🥰 Hey man!... Can't we all stand on a beautiful, sunny,'fakkin', hill'?🥰......join hands, hold a bottle of Coca cola, and sing a lovely, 1970's, hippie, New Seekers, 'cyber song' of love?🥰

(To the tune of The New Seekers 'I'd like to teach the world to sing)
🥰"Oh... I'd like to buy the world a Speedy... and gaze at it with luvvvv🥰.... with close Swiss Teez..... and Dot over nineteez.. and Ed White unpolished lugs"🥰

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abrod520 abrod520
Well, there are people who depend on Twitter for their jobs, especially journalists or as public figures otherwise. Established politicians and superstars can employ social media managers to filter this stuff out, but many people who are working their way up need to pay attention to their mentions. When they're full of racist / sexist remarks, death or rape threats, it's hard to go through to try to read legitimate messages.
As for staying connected with friends on social media - do you really believe we should have to accept abuse in order to stay in touch with old friends who have moved away / we have moved away from?
The worst of it are the messages women get in dating apps. Again, ask any single (or recently single) woman in your life about her experiences using them. It's absolutely batshit the messages they get -consider too that that's just the tip of the iceberg - and there's no good reason to just throw our hands up and say "oh well, that's the way it is"

I don't understand how staying in with friends & family on Facebook can lead to abuse like sexist comments, racist remarks, and death threats..... unless your friends and family are making them. If somehow it is a problem, you simply make your account accessible to only your FB friends.

Dating sites, Twitter, and Instagram are a different animal and are similar to forums - anyone can use them and comment on your material. That's a risk you take when putting yourself out there. The problem is you're now putting yourself out there to millions of people (normal and disturbed ones) so you have to be ready for anything. Until the authorities figure out a way to police the web, it's going to be the wild west.
 
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I was taught "sticks & stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me."
 
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Can't get shot over the internet.

You'd be surprised, a guy got banned from here a few years back for trying to solicit someone to do exactly that.

michael22 michael22
I was taught "sticks & stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me."

That's all well and good but treating people with decency and respect isn't hard and is expected.
 
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I was taught "sticks & stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me."

That was true up until around the turn of this century. Now, snowflakes melt if you reply with something that's not rainbows & unicorns.

There's a difference between abusive harassment and teasing. I guess your definition depends on the thickness of your skin. Get the micrometer!
 
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Now, snowflakes melt if you reply with something that's not rainbows & unicorns.
Come on now, you're starting to sound like the President...or Roseanne Barr.

You're better than that.
gatorcpa
 
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gatorcpa gatorcpa
Come on now, you're starting to sound like the President...or Roseanne Barr.

That's hurtful. 😜 😁

gatorcpa gatorcpa
You're better than that.

Yes, but I pride myself on being able to play on any level that the competition dictates! 😉 ::stirthepot::

Okay, seriously.... I'll stop.
 
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How about a "Noob Warning" sticky? A list of items, questions or comments that will earn them a full dress down? Could be both funny and useful.

Time for me and my Rolex to go for a shower. Nighty night...
 
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dsio dsio
You'd be surprised, a guy got banned from here a few years back for trying to solicit someone to do exactly that.



That's all well and good but treating people with decency and respect isn't hard and is expected.
Well, I am surprised.
I don't think anybody is advocating we don't apply a "decency ( & good manners)" concept to our discussions.

Respect has always been a flexible thing. Some earn, some don't. Applying resect equally to everyone, earned or not, will devalue it.
 
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Thank you for proving my point.

What’s your point?

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I don't understand how staying in with friends & family on Facebook can lead to abuse like sexist comments, racist remarks, and death threats..... unless your friends and family are making them. If somehow it is a problem, you simply make your account accessible to only your FB friends.

Dating sites, Twitter, and Instagram are a different animal and are similar to forums - anyone can use them and comment on your material. That's a risk you take when putting yourself out there. The problem is you're now putting yourself out there to millions of people (normal and disturbed ones) so you have to be ready for anything. Until the authorities figure out a way to police the web, it's going to be the wild west.

I understand that but my point is: Why do we have to wait for the authorities to do something about it? I think we can all do better ourselves

michael22 michael22
Can't get shot over the internet.
michael22 michael22
I was taught "sticks & stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me."

“Doxxing” is a common online bullying tactic, it means to publish a person’s personal info - their address, phone number etc. The words themselves might not hurt, but people following words have hurt countless others throughout history.

U ulackfocus
There's a difference between abusive harassment and teasing.

This is absolutely true, but do remember that what one person, maybe a close friend, might consider funny teasing - someone else might consider abusive if done to them. And there’s nothing wrong with that, just gotta pay attention to the way they respond - besides, there are other ways of connecting with people! (I’m saying this as a dude who teases people)

dsio dsio
treating people with decency and respect isn't hard and is expected.

And is part of being a goddamn adult!
 
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Come on now, you're starting to sound like the President...or Roseanne Barr.

You're better than that.
gatorcpa

Y’know it’s funny, people like Roseanne Barr love talking about snowflakes when people stand up to abuse, but do something innocuous like send them a card that says “happy holidays” in December or put a gay couple in a Cheerios commercial and they lose their goddamn minds
 
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dsio dsio
That's all well and good but treating people with decency and respect isn't hard and is expected.
This is a valid point and recently I recall that we (Ash and moi) had a rather pointless and somewhat heated discussion on the Apple Watch versus the Tag-Heuer Connected 41mm...all derived apparently from a misunderstanding, perhaps due to poor communication on my part. I was trying to make a general comment on smartwatches and Ash thought I was having a dig at the AW. I do think that we could have handled that exchange better (on both sides).

To bring a more positive tone to this thread...we do have some true gents/ladies here who do indeed lead by example: @Longbow is a forum member that I really admire...I think he sets the standard in terms of general behaviour, politeness etc. @Syrte is also very classy.

Cheers,

RP
 
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Observationally, what's considered constructive discourse and bullying seem to have morphed both online and in person especially over the past decade. Who or what should we blame? Internet? Parents? School system? The economy? World events? All of the above? I have my opinion but am curious what other members think.
 
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