Complain about being hung with a new rope?

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I don't understand when I read posts about my "brand new watch purchased at the AD/Boutique isn't working." It would be a very cold day in hell before I have a BN watch purchased at the AD go in for service. It just wouldn't happen, ever.
It's an odd story, for sure. I originally asked to see the watch on my wrist, with intentions of getting a pre-loved on one fleabay if I liked it. My wife was with me and went gaga over it...not a good thing, and it was just the push needed to get out the credit card. I knew at the time that the model was being discontinued but didn't care. Now I care, because there aren't any available for an exchange. By the time I overcame my wife's resistance to undoing the deal, the 14 day return period had expired. Moral...don't let your wife's emotions color your purchase decisions.
 
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forget that 14 day noise. did you use Amex by any chance?

...and I feel you on the moral of the story. I shop alone! period.
 
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If you really want to scrap the deal I bet Amex could assist you in that matter. Amex buyer protection is quite strong.
 
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Unlike a watch with a regulator, where the rate is adjusted by turning a screw or moving a lever, a free sprung balance requires moving weights on the rim of the balance wheel - at least 2 at a time. If they are not moved the exact same amount, a poise error will be introduced, and positional variation may increase. Not to mention the potential for damage to the balance spring, and in the case of the co-axial, to the escapement if the balance is not handled correctly.

At the risk of a total hijack of this thread, wanted to find out the basic differences between the Omega free sprung balance and those on this older one from Elgin.

http://elginwatches.org/history/fm.html

Thanks,
gatorcpa
 
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It's just a different way of accomplishing the same thing - changing the moment of inertia of the balance wheel. As revolutionary as the copy makes it sound, the Durabalance it never really caught on in a big way.

Omega watches with a free sprung balance use screws on the perimeter of the balance wheel that are turned with a specific Omega tool:



This is a little out of focus but the photo wasn't really taken to show the screws, but they are there at the red arrows:



Other makers use different systems - Rolex uses the Microstella screw, and the tool is similar - the head of the screw is star shaped rather than square as on the Omega I showed:



As you can see here, these screws are on the inside of rim of the balance and not the outside - this reduces drag as the balance rotates. Also not shown is a second set of screws that are under the balance bridge in this photo - they are smaller and for finer adjustments:



Of course the other difference between the balance in this 3135 and an Omega 2500 or similar is that the Omega uses a flat balance spring, and the Rolex has an overcoil.

Earlier Rolex models like this Cal. 1575 had the Microstella screws on the outside of the rim, as well as screws for poising the balance:



Now the newest Omega balances (8500 and 9300 for example) have the screws on the inside of the wheel, and the head of the screw is like a Torx screw shape.

There are many different ways to create a system to adjust the moment of inertia of the balance wheel. These are balance wheels I photographed in the atelier of Romain Gauthier, and these have eccentric weights that are on posts that are rotated to adjust the inertia, similar in design to a Gyromax balance used by PP for example.



Hope this helps.

Cheers, Al
 
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Yeah I opened a co-axial movement to see about regulating it. Asked Al what I should do when I got the proper tools. After a quick discussion I said forget it and closed it back up and left it to a real professional lol. Not something for one without proper training to work on. A simple screw regulator is easy but these are a different animal as Al shows above.