Can’t unscrew the helium escape valve.

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Lets not forget the implications if you get a helium build up and cant release it ..... if the bracelet clasp sticks as well you could be seconds aways from bad times......
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Lets not forget the implications if you get a helium build up and cant release it ..... if the bracelet clasp sticks as well you could be seconds aways from bad times......
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Looks like using a blowtorch to cut apart a stuck bracelet might not be a good idea… 🤔
 
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Looks like using a blowtorch to cut apart a stuck bracelet might not be a good idea… 🤔

That was more of an issue with the R101 hydrogen relief valve :0)
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Well I went and read the first post but I wasn't going to take an in-depth stroll through all eleven pages. And I'm still not going to. I don't know about the compressibility of helium but I'm always struck by how much of your typical watch case is taken up with fixed and moving parts.

So maybe there are watches with a lot of room between crystal and backplate.
Maybe helium is particularly compressible.
I do believe in the phenomena of "smoke and mirrors", "snake oil" and good old "bullsh^^".

Is it ever possible to compress a gas inside a space to such a degree that the free movement of the moving parts would be impaired by friction caused by the helium?

[All this time wasting because someone claiming to have OCD bought a watch without appropriate questioning of the vendor or demonstration of its functionality? Huh!]
 
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Well I went and read the first post but I wasn't going to take an in-depth stroll through all eleven pages. And I'm still not going to. I don't know about the compressibility of helium but I'm always struck by how much of your typical watch case is taken up with fixed and moving parts.

So maybe there are watches with a lot of room between crystal and backplate.
Maybe helium is particularly compressible.
I do believe in the phenomena of "smoke and mirrors", "snake oil" and good old "bullsh^^".

Is it ever possible to compress a gas inside a space to such a degree that the free movement of the moving parts would be impaired by friction caused by the helium?

[All this time wasting because someone claiming to have OCD bought a watch without appropriate questioning of the vendor or demonstration of its functionality? Huh!]

I think this is only a feature to assist with saturation diving - which 99.9% of owners will not do.
If you look a the design of the ultra deep project or say the ploprof you can see the technical challenges depth brings. People can appreciate owning something with an impressive technical feature and not necessarily use it or even need it. I guess the fact something has a rating ( for example use in Space, like say the Speedmaster) also implies it will be robust and long lasting in everyday normal use.
 
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A sailor’s best friend. I think I own at least 5 of these.
Old school but very worthy.A pair of Stilsons is also a must.
 
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Well I went and read the first post but I wasn't going to take an in-depth stroll through all eleven pages. And I'm still not going to. I don't know about the compressibility of helium but I'm always struck by how much of your typical watch case is taken up with fixed and moving parts.

So maybe there are watches with a lot of room between crystal and backplate.
Maybe helium is particularly compressible.
I do believe in the phenomena of "smoke and mirrors", "snake oil" and good old "bullsh^^".

Is it ever possible to compress a gas inside a space to such a degree that the free movement of the moving parts would be impaired by friction caused by the helium?

[All this time wasting because someone claiming to have OCD bought a watch without appropriate questioning of the vendor or demonstration of its functionality? Huh!]

So the thread I linked is a joke thread.

the real issue with He is in deep saturation diving in mixed gas atmospheres. He is a small atom and gets past the seals of the watch. When you come back to the surface after living at depth you need to vent the He inside the watch as when the pressure drops the watch interior pressure will stay higher and will cause the front crystal to blow out.
 
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So the thread I linked is a joke thread.

Ah, that's what some people think 😝

the real issue with He is in deep saturation diving in mixed gas atmospheres. He is a small atom and gets past the seals of the watch. When you come back to the surface after living at depth you need to vent the He inside the watch as when the pressure drops the watch interior pressure will stay higher and will cause the front crystal to blow out.

Do deep saturation divers actually use mechanical watches rather than smart technology digital devices? Oops - almost avoided a can of worms there!::facepalm1::
 
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Do deep saturation divers actually use mechanical watches rather than smart technology digital devices? Oops - almost avoided a can of worms there!::facepalm1::

there is the rub…

techically a gmt is more useful at depth, but sat divers also do normal diving hence the need for the dive bezel.
 
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Do deep saturation divers actually use mechanical watches rather than smart technology digital devices? Oops - almost avoided a can of worms there!::facepalm1::
Anyone with the qualification to perform these dives would bring a mechanical dive watch purely for fun.
I would say this applies to any diving, but you can get an intro to diving on a small enough budget and in a casual setting
 
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Well are you deep sat diving?

otherwise it doesn’t really matter.
Nice response...your type of comment is why people with legit questions sometimes don't ask them...
 
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Nice response...your type of comment is why people with legit questions sometimes don't ask them...
You must be fun at parties.

well it’s either ignore it or get it serviced and hope they can unstick it. Nothing else to do.
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You must be fun at parties.

well it’s either ignore it or get it serviced and hope they can unstick it. Nothing else to do.

Dude asked a legit question...the response of "Well are you deep sat diving?/otherwise it doesn’t really matter"...was douchey...it obviously mattered to the guy asking...
 
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Dude asked a legit question...the response of "Well are you deep sat diving?/otherwise it doesn’t really matter"...was douchey...it obviously mattered to the guy asking...
Well it really doesn't actually... It is sort of meaningless and has no use, and no one else has had that problem... There is obviously no magic way to unstick it, and he didn't ask for a way to unstick it.

I also assume that everyone understands that the He valve feature is in fact meaningless unless you are one of the few thousand people on the planet that actually deep sat dive.
 
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Well it really doesn't actually... It is sort of meaningless and has no use, and no one else has had that problem... There is obviously no magic way to unstick it, and he didn't ask for a way to unstick it.

I also assume that everyone understands that the He valve feature is in fact meaningless unless you are one of the few thousand people on the planet that actually deep sat dive.

It looks cool
 
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It looks cool
Some people think so. Others not as much.
Your mileage will vary.
 
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Divers who are going below say 140 feet may need to worry about the He. We use helium to speed up the decompression cycle and minimize N2 narcosis. It would not matter with an externally worn watch but I wear mine inside my dry suit. It's not used during the dive but before and after on the surface. Inside the dry suit is often the same gas you are breathing but may be also from a small He only bottle. An automatic He release valve is needed. In the case of several of the newer watches that are advertised as saturation diver watches with newer seals, (He proof somehow) no worries.

Ali