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Sockie
·Somehow I get the feeling you know the answer to this and all previous questions already. Maybe it's just me?
Can anyone offer help with this watch please
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janice&fred
·Okiedoki 😁
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TimeODanaos
·But I was meaning to ask - if your uncle is still in health, would he care to share some of grandfather's really good pieces? Could be quite a feast!
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Sockie
·Jings, mon! - it's 1:30 am in Scotland, you need to rest! Dont let watch obsession do this to you.
But I was meaning to ask - if your uncle is still in health, would he care to share some of grandfather's really good pieces? Could be quite a feast!
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Sockie
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PlainVanilla
·Brilliant!
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SkunkPrince
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You never know, if you ask them nicely they will likely speak with you. You have nothing to do with their issues. What do you have to lose? That's YOUR family too and they perhaps want to know you as much as you want to know them.
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Sockie
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I just realised that the Constellation lettering is completely invisible in the second photo, obscured by shadow. How weird!
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!So what was swapped then, hands or dial? The hands have lume, the dial does not.
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Sockie
·Do you mean nothing was changed this time around? My point was either the hands or dial were changed long ago. They don’t match.
I can’t do or say anything more than I already have about this watch. It Is an oddity. I think we just have to accept that it is what it is: unusual, possibly unique. That is what I have learned from this forum, and my subsequent reading on the internet.
I feel that I have been taking some heat over this. I don’t know why. Anyway, it just increases my enjoyment of this watch, knowing that it is unusual, and an heirloom.
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Sockie
·The heat as you call it is because you are describing as all original a watch which many of us, most in fact think is clearly not. You have your opinion and we have ours. But it’s a family heirloom, so what do you care. Right?
The radium on the hands looks long gone, leaving just a groove on the hands, and the hands show a heavy patina on the gold finish. They don’t look new in any was shape or form. And the random chance finding of that other watch with the same black dial and Constellation font type that I posted images of earlier, also show identical hands. What are the chances of two seemingly unrelated watches having had the same retrospective modifications? Extreme coincidence, or two watches made at the same time in the same style? I’m a logical man, so I think it is more likely that at least two watches were made in the same way.
my watch has spent 38 years locked up in a safe, unused, so I can personally vouch for that period.
As for 1958 to 1981 I cannot personally account for.
Once again, I will post the image of the almost identical watch I found during my research. Are we really suggesting both have randomly had the same after market modifications?
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!Fair enough. I have pm'd you, I was likely out of line here.
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersThis example watch has lume in both the hands and the centre of the indices.
No ‘heat’ intended but it is unlikely that Omega produced a standard watch with lumed hands and no lume on the dial.
it is likely that the hands on your watch were replaced at some point - which may have been 50 or 60 years ago. (And they could still be genuine Omega hands)
However, given that a black dial was a special order, it is just possible that the lumed hands were also special order at the time of purchase too.
whatever the true situation, you have a lovely Constellation, so enjoy it.
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slwoodster
·hope you also catch the watch bug.
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Dan S
·Are there perhaps hollows in the center of the applied markers of the OP watch that may have originally been lume-filled?
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Sockie
·I understand what you are saying, however look at my watch and the other example.
- same black dial
- same gold markers
- same shape date window
- same spelling of Chronometer at a period of time that records say makes little sense in 1958
- same Constellation font type that no one has seen in this forum out with the Jumbo constellations
- both 1958 models
- both have identical hands.
I have no idea about the history of the other watch. However, are we really trying to say that, two unrelated watches have both been altered in an identical way?
Is it not more likely that two watches, or likely more than two, have been made in the same way in 1958?
if the black dial was special order, then could a batch have been made up, possibly upon request of a dealership, in 1958? Is that not more likely?
Could it just possibly be that I have brought new knowledge to this forum? And if so, why the resistance to accept this?
- same black dial
- same gold markers
- same shape date window
- same spelling of Chronometer at a period of time that records say makes little sense in 1958
- same Constellation font type that no one has seen in this forum out with the Jumbo constellations
- both 1958 models
- both have identical hands.
I have no idea about the history of the other watch. However, are we really trying to say that, two unrelated watches have both been altered in an identical way?
Is it not more likely that two watches, or likely more than two, have been made in the same way in 1958?
if the black dial was special order, then could a batch have been made up, possibly upon request of a dealership, in 1958? Is that not more likely?
Could it just possibly be that I have brought new knowledge to this forum? And if so, why the resistance to accept this?
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Peemacgee
··Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungersWhat I was trying to highlight is that your watch and the second example are not the same.
The pics you posted of your watch appear to show solid gold indices.
The second example has lume running through the length of the indices.
That is the difference I was tying to illustrate.
if that is not the case and your watch doesn’t have solid gold indices (I.e. also has lume running through the indices) then that would be a different matter.
The pics you posted of your watch appear to show solid gold indices.
The second example has lume running through the length of the indices.
That is the difference I was tying to illustrate.
if that is not the case and your watch doesn’t have solid gold indices (I.e. also has lume running through the indices) then that would be a different matter.
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