Can anybody tell something about this watch / clock?

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Hi,

can anybody tell me if this is a converted omega cal 12 pocket watch that the use to put in a clock?
It wears the omega symbol on the balance cock, but has no further "Omega" markings.
and is it made key wind.

thx

 
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Doesn’t appear to be an Omega movement. Looks like someone cut the Omega symbol into the balance bridge

Doesn’t match the caliber 12 if you search on it
 
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I think that’s an Omega balance bridge grafted onto another movement.
 
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The movement looks like an Omega 19''' key-wound. What makes you think it is a 12'''? What is the diameter of the movement?
They were produced over quite a long period (roughly 1900 to 1910). Reference 525.19.
This was presumably because of a market still existing amongst 'traditional' customers who still wanted a key-wound watch.
The success of the 19''' was largely because of the 8760 patent (stem-wound and -set) - but the key-wound still sold.
 
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The movement looks like an Omega 19''' key-wound. What makes you think it is a 12'''? What is the diameter of the movement?
They were produced over quite a long period (roughly 1900 to 1910). Reference 525.19.
This was presumably because of a market still existing amongst 'traditional' customers who still wanted a key-wound watch.
The success of the 19''' was largely because of the 8760 patent (stem-wound and -set) - but the key-wound still sold.
sorry for late response
you are right, I thought it looked like caliber 12 but as you say it is a ligne 19. I took the movement out and under the dial it says 8760 and serial number dating it from around 1897.
but I didn't know there key wind Omega's too.
thanks for youre reply.

 
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sorry for late response
you are right, I thought it looked like 12" but as you say it is a ligne 19. I took the movement out and under the dial it says 8760 and serial number dating it from around 1897.
but I didn't know there key wind Omega's too.
the plate at the winding part is also very different.

thanks for youre reply.

 
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sorry for late response
you are right, I thought it looked like caliber 12 but as you say it is a ligne 19. I took the movement out and under the dial it says 8760 and serial number dating it from around 1897.
but I didn't know there key wind Omega's too.
thanks for youre reply.

...but for dating (of these older watches), you'd need to use the case number, not the movement number.
 
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...but for dating (of these older watches), you'd need to use the case number, not the movement number.
i have no case the made it into a clock as you can see in the pictures, but are there key wind Omega's with patent 8760? i cant find anything.
 
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i have no case the made it into a clock as you can see in the pictures, but are there key wind Omega's with patent 8760? i cant find anything.
That’s understood – but it means you can’t date the watch (only very approximately). Movements were made in batches and used over a period of years, sometimes many years.

Your question about 8760 shows the ‘joke’ – the Brevet 8760 (which is effectively a Swiss patent) was a wonderful development and helped lead to great Omega success. 8760 introduced stem-setting and winding (thus removing the need for pin-setting or a key) – but they did continue making some key-wound watches: as I wrote earlier, “presumably because a market still existed amongst 'traditional' customers who still wanted a key-wound watch” (but that’s only my supposition).

So 8760 does not apply to this watch – but by this time, maybe it was applied to all movements they produced.
 
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That’s understood – but it means you can’t date the watch (only very approximately). Movements were made in batches and used over a period of years, sometimes many years.

Your question about 8760 shows the ‘joke’ – the Brevet 8760 (which is effectively a Swiss patent) was a wonderful development and helped lead to great Omega success. 8760 introduced stem-setting and winding (thus removing the need for pin-setting or a key) – but they did continue making some key-wound watches: as I wrote earlier, “presumably because a market still existed amongst 'traditional' customers who still wanted a key-wound watch” (but that’s only my supposition).

So 8760 does not apply to this watch – but by this time, maybe it was applied to all movements they produced.
ok thx regards, Eric