We can agree to disagree. This sure seems like "investment" talk to me.
the title of the thread is buy one “before it’s too late”
true to that title, the post itself is about how OP thinks they’re only going to become harder to find and afford (like the Daytona), so buy one now if you want one, and concludes:
“If you don't buy now, it might be too late even for a strong profile client to be allocated one.”
but let’s not let truth get in the way of a good trolling
I'd been looking for a nice 105.003 anything for a few years. Most of what I saw had lume issues (typical for these) and pretty used cases. The better ones had a mixture of replaced parts. When the new 321 came out, I naturally liked it, but at the time I thought why buy a remake when you can get the real thing. So I kept looking.
Complaining in a pm to a friend on here about the tough time i was having,he said "why don't you just buy a new 321?" That just hadn't occurred to me.
Once the thought was in my head, it seemed to make sense. There are issues with servicing vintage that can get tiresome. I had a 321 Seamaster that I had to send back several times due to chronograph start/stop problems. Plus, it seemed to be getting harder to find watchmakers, who were also lamenting the lack of parts.
The new 321 was growing in appeal. Unfortunately, despite being called a capricious watch slave by my friend ( a lot of truth in that), by not jumping on it right away, any hope of being on a list with a realistic delivery date had long since sailed.
I don't think my experience or thinking is unique. In spite of the relative premium compared to a standard moonwatch, i can justify it when comparing it to the vintage watches. There's someone to be said for having a brand new 321 movement in a stunning reference.
I also think that i will be able to buy one in 2 to 3 years from Omega without needing to go to the resellers. To me, it's worth waiting for. Provided of course that i can control my capriciousness...
Cheers
When it first came out, I was just like whatever. Cool watch but not for me. I already have a FOIS which is pretty similar with 39.7mm dial and straight lugs. It wasn't until others started posting pictures here where I really started appreciating the watch. It took me awhile for my OB to at least put me on the waitlist but at least I'm on it now. I'm guessing probably a 3 year wait.
There was a seller here that had one which was the cheapest I've see on the GM but it was purchased by another member here a few months ago.
I was the member that bought the New321 Ed White from a seller here on OF three months ago. In the end I paid a premium of 23% compared to buying it from a US Omega boutique. I have a limited buying record from OBs and I knew I would have a difficult time getting one using that route, and I don't like playing that game anyway. I'd rather pay the market price and have the watch on my wrist in a week or two. Some people refuse to pay more than MSRP and that's fine, too. I don't buy watches as investments but I try to buy at a point where I can enjoy the watch and sell it sometime in the future and recoup my money. The price I paid for the 321 fit that criteria. I'm very happy with my purchase and am enjoying it, that's all that matters in my collecting world. Everybody has their own way of approaching their passions, there is no one correct way.
I'd been looking for a nice 105.003 anything for a few years. Most of what I saw had lume issues (typical for these) and pretty used cases. The better ones had a mixture of replaced parts. When the new 321 came out, I naturally liked it, but at the time I thought why buy a remake when you can get the real thing. So I kept looking.
Complaining in a pm to a friend on here about the tough time i was having,he said "why don't you just buy a new 321?" That just hadn't occurred to me.
Once the thought was in my head, it seemed to make sense. There are issues with servicing vintage that can get tiresome. I had a 321 Seamaster that I had to send back several times due to chronograph start/stop problems. Plus, it seemed to be getting harder to find watchmakers, who were also lamenting the lack of parts.
The new 321 was growing in appeal. Unfortunately, despite being called a capricious watch slave by my friend ( a lot of truth in that), by not jumping on it right away, any hope of being on a list with a realistic delivery date had long since sailed.
I don't think my experience or thinking is unique. In spite of the relative premium compared to a standard moonwatch, i can justify it when comparing it to the vintage watches. There's someone to be said for having a brand new 321 movement in a stunning reference.
I also think that i will be able to buy one in 2 to 3 years from Omega without needing to go to the resellers. To me, it's worth waiting for. Provided of course that i can control my capriciousness...
Cheers
You have done a nice job here elucidating a number of issues related to the new vs old Ed Whites.
Yes - the older ones often have replaced parts and mechanical issues that can be a major, head-throbbing pain to deal with. A new one has none of these issues: you snap it on, and you’re on your way.
On the other hand… it’s been my experience that if you don’t reach the aggravation tipping-point, bringing a basket case back to its former glory can be extremely gratifying, and often gives you a sense of connection and new history with the piece that you can’t get from buying new. It seems like many other endeavors in life we encounter: often the journey can be a royal pain in the rear, but when it’s done, we actually find ourselves quite satisfied.
ld completely agree with this. The reason I didn't buy the new Ed White is because I have a 105.003-65.
have done a nice job here elucidating a number of issues related to the new vs old Ed Whites.
You have done a nice job here elucidating a number of issues related to the new vs old Ed Whites.
Yes - the older ones often have replaced parts and mechanical issues that can be a major, head-throbbing pain to deal with. A new one has none of these issues: you snap it on, and you’re on your way.
On the other hand… it’s been my experience that if you don’t reach the aggravation tipping-point, bringing a basket case back to its former glory can be extremely gratifying, and often gives you a sense of connection and new history with the piece that you can’t get from buying new. It seems like many other endeavors in life we encounter: often the journey can be a royal pain in the rear, but when it’s done, we actually find ourselves quite satisfied.
You have done a nice job here elucidating a number of issues related to the new vs old Ed Whites.
Yes - the older ones often have replaced parts and mechanical issues that can be a major, head-throbbing pain to deal with. A new one has none of these issues: you snap it on, and you’re on your way.
On the other hand… it’s been my experience that if you don’t reach the aggravation tipping-point, bringing a basket case back to its former glory can be extremely gratifying, and often gives you a sense of connection and new history with the piece that you can’t get from buying new. It seems like many other endeavors in life we encounter: often the journey can be a royal pain in the rear, but when it’s done, we actually find ourselves quite satisfied.
I think there are people who want the 321, and people who want vintage. Those wants are not necessarily the same. To me the new 321 doesn't have any appeal, because it's not vintage. The reason I would want an Ed White is that it has survived over the years, and shows it's age. Not going to get that with the current Omega homage watch.
Would be interesting to see how many folks want vintage only; how many want new only; and how many would buy both.
I was on the list for a new one, but my AD finally gave up, so I did too. The appeal for new is this, at least for me: since I have an old one, I would wear it with impunity, never once getting a blood pressure escalation form the first major scratch.
