Breaking News: The New Steel Speedmaster With Caliber 321 “Ed White”

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Realistically, there are two possibilities:
1) The watch is stolen so he’s happy getting close to retail.
2) The watch is fake so he’s really happy making close to retail.

In both cases you can see why he wouldn’t want to go into the OB. If they identify it as stolen or fake he can bolt.

No other possibility makes sense unless you’re willfully ignoring all the red flags. I’d personally walk away from the deal and just buy one from the OB when I got the chance because I don’t want to support whatever that person is doing, whether it’s flipping, fencing a stolen watch, or selling a fake.
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Not sure if he really afraid getting captured by camera, but he said he is waiting his snoopy, and it will arrived soon, if everything he said is true then of course he is a flipper, and I think it is ok to be a flipper too, if I call omega for confirm the watch will I become the bad guy for ruining his business. Is it true if you get caught selling watch privately will removed from omega vip list?
If you call the boutique, they will know who it was in any case... They are not selling a lot of those, for sure they will remember the sale.
Better for him to go with you to the OB, it will be cleaner.
If he still does not want to, you may want to finalize the transaction at the Police station, see what he think about this option 😗
 
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Did he show you the original proof of purchase with his name on, and could he show you an identity card with the same name? Or a bank/credit card that matches the details on the card receipt?

At least then you could be pretty sure he bought it.
 
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And ask yourself why he wouldn't just jump on Chrono24. Even if he listed it to be the cheapest on there he'd still make 25% or more reselling.

Speaking of which, there must have just been a DUMP of the Ed White onto the market. Chrono24 went from 6 listings to 21 in a week. Assuming every Ed White that gets sent to the OBs doesn't end up on there, probably had 3 months worth of 321s get sold all of a sudden.
 
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He said he will contact me after restamp the warranty and I just found out there’s a new listing Ed White which changed from local set to overseas set from same seller. Is that really something high replica watch in market, it is so hard to believe the watch is a replica one. Or it is really a stolen one with fake stamp on warranty card that even the OB can’t distinguish. It is just so hard to find out which part in deal is wrong. I will try to asking more information in different account and hoping we all can study the case to prevent next possible victim.
 
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And ask yourself why he wouldn't just jump on Chrono24. Even if he listed it to be the cheapest on there he'd still make 25% or more reselling.

Speaking of which, there must have just been a DUMP of the Ed White onto the market. Chrono24 went from 6 listings to 21 in a week. Assuming every Ed White that gets sent to the OBs doesn't end up on there, probably had 3 months worth of 321s get sold all of a sudden.
There’s been about 15/20 of them on there for the last 2 months....it’s not been as low as 6 for months.
 
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There’s been about 15/20 of them on there for the last 2 months....it’s not been as low as 6 for months.
Weird, I must have hit the magic keyword/ref to bring the rest up. I'd only been getting 5 or 6. Anyway, point being if this guy is legit flipping a piece he bought, he'd been asking for way more than he is.
 
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Weird, I must have hit the magic keyword/ref to bring the rest up. I'd only been getting 5 or 6. Anyway, point being if this guy is legit flipping a piece he bought, he'd been asking for way more than he is.
Yeah, they don’t shift that quick however.

the sweet spot in the U.K. grey market is about 14.5k - a couple were hoovered up at that recently. That’s about 20% over retail.

I guess once you take into account fees etc it’s not a huge mark up.

selling at retail sounds odd though. Unless this fella only bought to increase his sales and up his chances for a snoopy.
 
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.Unless this fella only bought to increase his sales and up his chances for a snoopy.[/QUOTE]

Buying a 321 to improve your chance for a Snoopy.I don’t think so! 321 is the jewel in my eyes.
 
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Omega UK claims to have a waiting list covering the next five years. Provided that is correct these will be rare animals for quite a while. Anybody selling on for retail is a philanthropist, an idiot or a fraudster ;-).
Good thing I got mine...
 
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Mine came in that same plastic coffin

meanwhile, there are viable reasons people don’t care to chase the premium sale if instead they can quickly and easily unload at breakeven. not everybody “needs,” the money and/or some people have a high eversion to the circus of selling.

Seems there’s also a miscommunication possibly about what “authenticate” is meaning here - a suggestion that the AD/OB is saying they can’t promise it’s exactly as when it left the factory, vs saying it never left the factory.
 
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The watch looks good to me. The plastic shipping box, black piece of sponge, hang tag all look legit. It is true that Omega does blacklist people for selling certain hard to find models even if the sale is not for a profit. If he is a VIP, then he should have a decent collection of Omega watches. Maybe ask him to show you his collection and related paperwork to validate? If that checks out, it is unlikely that it is stolen property.
 
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.Unless this fella only bought to increase his sales and up his chances for a snoopy.

Buying a 321 to improve your chance for a Snoopy.I don’t think so! 321 is the jewel in my eyes.[/QUOTE]
if it is partly dictated by spend, that could be the case.

I don’t get the whole thing about it. For me the 321 is a far nicer piece.
 
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The watch looks good to me. The plastic shipping box, black piece of sponge, hang tag all look legit. It is true that Omega does blacklist people for selling certain hard to find models even if the sale is not for a profit. If he is a VIP, then he should have a decent collection of Omega watches. Maybe ask him to show you his collection and related paperwork to validate? If that checks out, it is unlikely that it is stolen property.
I think it’s too late for now, the seller already relisted the watch as “overseas set”, and already reserved in few hour, I think that’s certainly something wrong about seller, he gave me all the information except his name. And the customer name on the receipt is Olivia but the seller is a guy which not very common in Asia.
 
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I think it’s too late for now, the seller already relisted the watch as “overseas set”, and already reserved in few hour, I think that’s certainly something wrong about seller, he gave me all the information except his name. And the customer name on the receipt is Olivia but the seller is a guy which not very common in Asia.

Right, why would he be "worried" about his place on the VIP list if someone named Olivia bought the Ed White and he won't show ID that matches the receipt? It's just a little too weird.
 
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Here is some photo i get from private seller, need some help from you guys~

Warranty card looks different from mine, I got my 321 in Dec 2020 and it came with the "newer style" warranty card and the Ion OB name and address printed same font as the other text. They told me they just printed the warranty card a few hours before I came in.

Maybe they ran out of the new style warranty card for this 321....just seems strange that if all the s/n on the watch, invoice and warranty card matches, he is reluctant to give his name. Does not make sense he wants to remain anonymous whilst the invoice has a name and the OB would know who the watch was sold to anyway if someone else picked up/paid for it as the Ion OB knows their VIP customers very well and I am sure they remember this 321 as it just sold in the same month. It's not like the OB gets allocated a 321 every other week.
 
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Warranty card looks different from mine, I got my 321 in Dec 2020 and it came with the "newer style" warranty card and the Ion OB name and address printed same font as the other text. They told me they just printed the warranty card a few hours before I came in.

Maybe they ran out of the new style warranty card for this 321....just seems strange that if all the s/n on the watch, invoice and warranty card matches, he is reluctant to give his name. Does not make sense he wants to remain anonymous whilst the invoice has a name and the OB would know who the watch was sold to anyway if someone else picked up/paid for it as the Ion OB knows their VIP customers very well and I am sure they remember this 321 as it just sold in the same month. It's not like the OB gets allocated a 321 every other week.
Latest update from omega after I’m asking about the seller and watch, they said it’s all real, real people real watch, seems like just a rich weirdo trying to sell a watch and afraid of getting know by OB, seems really got good deal in this world, regretting now.
 
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It’s so funny people are complaining about the flippers and calling them names and when someone just offers it’s piece for retail to make another speedy enthusiast happy, it MUST be fake
 
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I didn't say it was fake, I said it was probably stolen. The paperwork had a woman's name and the seller refused to show ID or even enter the boutique. The seller's story was that he bought it to have a better chance at a Silver Snoopy and didn't want to be "recognized by Omega" as a flipper but, based on the paperwork, he wasn't the original buyer anyway. In that situation, whether or not is was a "good deal" depends on how comfortable you are buying stolen jewelry that, presumably, was stolen from another enthusiastic Omega fan like yourself.
 
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Realistically, there are two possibilities:
1) The watch is stolen so he’s happy getting close to retail.
2) The watch is fake so he’s really happy making close to retail.

In both cases you can see why he wouldn’t want to go into the OB. If they identify it as stolen or fake he can bolt.

No other possibility makes sense unless you’re willfully ignoring all the red flags. I’d personally walk away from the deal and just buy one from the OB when I got the chance because I don’t want to support whatever that person is doing, whether it’s flipping, fencing a stolen watch, or selling a fake.

you said you only stated it could be stolen? Not really…