Breaking News: The New Steel Speedmaster With Caliber 321 “Ed White”

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This is a $6-7K dollar watch, it does nothing for me and is yet another re-edition flooded by Omega...well done, keep them coming and dilute your the storied brand.

I'll go for the real deal every single time at this price point, what a shame.
 
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It seems to make the FOIS seem like a great deal. The 321 is nice, and so it the bracelet, but I'm not sure what else more you are getting for almost $10K more?
 
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This is a $6-7K dollar watch, it does nothing for me and is yet another re-edition flooded by Omega...well done, keep them coming and dilute your the storied brand.

I'll go for the real deal every single time at this price point, what a shame.

i think this is a bit harsh given how hard the 321 is to make

i think there was a middle ground here. . big premium to existing speedmasters but it is just fantasy to price these above SS Daytonas or GMTs MSRP IMO
 
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MSRP for GMTs & Subs are below $10k, how is this watch worth 50% more? It’s a sham to say the least.
I’d rather buy either one of those watches in the gray mkt over this. Omega is just flooding the mkt with one re-edition after another.

Enough is enough, give it a rest.
 
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This is a $6-7K dollar watch, it does nothing for me and is yet another re-edition flooded by Omega...well done, keep them coming and dilute your the storied brand.

I'll go for the real deal every single time at this price point, what a shame.
Then go and buy the vintage one instead of spitting on a watch that probably has more sense to its money than many other Chrono in that range that you can't get at MSRP now or never.

Your statement it's just ridiculous.
 
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Then go and buy the vintage one instead of spitting on a watch that probably has more sense to its money than many other Chrono in that range that you can't get at MSRP now or never.

Your statement it's just ridiculous.

i disagree. i think what omega has done in the last 5 years (basically ever since the snoopy and alaska LE speedmaster) have seriously de-rated the brand. the 57 LEs were a complete debacle and now sit at crazy discounts everywhere with gray market dealers

i put omega now with tudor. . but even tudor don't just copy old watches they take inspiration from historical watches and make new watches

no one will ever mistake a bb58 for a gilt tudor sub but both are spectacular watches and look at the bb58 value for money vs. this ed white re-issue nonsense

i think omega have completely and utterly run out of new ideas and this 321 proves it

did patek ever re-issue a vintage piece ? come on. . no chance
 
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i think this is a bit harsh given how hard the 321 is to make

i think there was a middle ground here. . big premium to existing speedmasters but it is just fantasy to price these above SS Daytonas or GMTs MSRP IMO

I’m confused - how is the 321 harder to make than the 861/1861?

For this epic marketing exercise, omega have chosen to make a song and dance about “one watchmaker building every movement”, that’s their choice as a “value add”, it’s not a requirement of the 321.

This is not a complicated movement.
 
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i disagree. i think what omega has done in the last 5 years (basically ever since the snoopy and alaska LE speedmaster) have seriously de-rated the brand. the 57 LEs were a complete debacle and now sit at crazy discounts everywhere with gray market dealers

i put omega now with tudor. . but even tudor don't just copy old watches they take inspiration from historical watches and make new watches

no one will ever mistake a bb58 for a gilt tudor sub but both are spectacular watches and look at the bb58 value for money vs. this ed white re-issue nonsense

i think omega have completely and utterly run out of new ideas and this 321 proves it

did patek ever re-issue a vintage piece ? come on. . no chance

Almost every brand on the planet reissue model and comparing Omega to Patek won't help.

Yes Omega have done tons of LE and you know what, they are right because they sell them, all of them. And they are doing right to re issue the ed white because it's a splendid watch and the normal user don't know and don't care of Omega history and you know what, they are right!

And since they want to push the Omega image higher than what it is the common perception they are right to put out a Chrono at 13k that at least, at least have a refine movement at that you will probably be able to buy at MSRP unlike a Daytona ( what a coincidence that the parice of the new Ed White it's so close to the Daytona MSRP isnt'it?)

Omega have to sell watch and making money, not making an handful of collector and hardcore watch lover happy.
 
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Almost every brand on the planet reissue model and comparing Omega to Patek won't help.

Yes Omega have done tons of LE and you know what, they are right because they sell them, all of them. And they are doing right to re issue the ed white because it's a splendid watch and the normal user don't know and don't care of Omega history and you know what, they are right!

And since they want to push the Omega image higher than what it is the common perception they are right to put out a Chrono at 13k that at least, at least have a refine movement at that you will probably be able to buy at MSRP unlike a Daytona ( what a coincidence that the parice of the new Ed White it's so close to the Daytona MSRP isnt'it?)

Omega have to sell watch and making money, not making an handful of collector and hardcore watch lover happy.

are you a shareholder ? or a watch collector/enthusiast ? because your note reads like you are a shareholder ? i thought OF was a message board for watch enthusiasts and collectors ?

SWATCH owns omega. SWATCH is a mass market brand. compare the brands that SWATCH owns vs. the portfolio of a company like Richemont owns and what that means as a collector / enthusiast.

the answer is absolutely lit up in neon and staring you in the face. . and by the way, from the shareholder perspective, swatch underperforms every other luxury watch co and luxury brand co in both down and up markets . ..because. . they aren't one

your post references daytonas twice. . they put the price to be equal to daytona. . but they use a mass market brand strategy

i cannot wait to see these trading at a 30% discount to retail in 2 years like every other omega watch they've ever made except the snoopy and alaska LEs which i am now convinced they basically lucked into
 
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are you a shareholder ? or a watch collector/enthusiast ? because your note reads like you are a shareholder ? i thought OF was a message board for watch enthusiasts and collectors ?

SWATCH owns omega. SWATCH is a mass market brand. compare the brands that SWATCH owns vs. the portfolio of a company like Richemont owns and what that means as a collector / enthusiast.

the answer is absolutely lit up in neon and staring you in the face. . and by the way, from the shareholder perspective, swatch underperforms every other luxury watch co and luxury brand co in both down and up markets . ..because. . they aren't one

your post references daytonas twice. . they put the price to be equal to daytona. . but they use a mass market brand strategy

i cannot wait to see these trading at a 30% discount to retail in 2 years like every other omega watch they've ever made except the snoopy and alaska LEs which i am now convinced they basically lucked into

here it is. . the entire SWATCH portfolio

https://www.swatchgroup.com/en/brands-companies

its like a who's who of fallen greats who have completely lost what made them special to begin with

the only name on here that surprises me is Rado because they are actually making incredible vintage inspired watches that are not copies of the originals that are great value for money
 
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Beautiful piece, just don't know if the size of the watch will be pleasing.
 
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are you a shareholder ?

I wish.
I'm just and harsh realist collector, i don't live in the world of fantasy when we talk of brand new watch.

And not, you are not probably going to see this at discount because at 2000 piece yearly it's extremely low production compare to Omega number and probably low in general compare to other manufacture in the same range.
 
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It's very nice indeed. But at 2x the price of a 60th anniversary and 3x the price of a FOIS, I prefer these last 2 options. Maybe it's due to the fact that I don't get the appeal of the 321 vs. 1861.

A column wheel is part of the appeal, IMHO
 
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I wish.
I'm just and harsh realist collector, i don't live in the world of fantasy when we talk of brand new watch.

And not, you are not probably going to see this at discount because at 2000 piece yearly it's extremely low production compare to Omega number and probably low in general compare to other manufacture in the same range.

no. . you DON'T wish

swatch is an AWFUL stock over EVERY time frame

for exactly the reasons that they are an AWFUL steward of luxury brands

its all linked. .. isn't it obvious????
 
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Yes, Aldrin wore a 105.012, making it the first watch worn on an EVA on the moon as Neil’s 105.012 stayed in the LEM. Cernan took TWO watches with him on Apollo 17: a 105.003 on a JB which stayed in the LEM at all times as the JB was not suitable for the EVA and a 105.012 which is seen on all the EVA photographs of him during the extended moon stay of Apollo 17. So the only known EVA moon references are 105.012 and 145.012.
Nobody, not even Aldrin, is sure that he wore a 105.012, and as the watch is ‘missing’ we may never know. I believe there is some research suggesting it might have actually been a 145.012.
 
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Coming from a vintage collector... Faux vintage lume and expo case back ruin it, sapphire crystal doesn't help either. I'd rather see the 321 in a modern case, full steel back, normal lume. Heuer has been doing similar 'glory days' models and it looks weak. Too much pandering to some hybrid market that wants brand new versions of old watches. Looks nice but it's not an honest watch. It's trying to cash in on a collectible trend and that's not appealing IMO. Omega was looking forward with the original Speedmaster, not back. I'd spend my $ on a vintage 321 instead.
 
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Coming from a vintage collector... Faux vintage lume and expo case back ruin it, sapphire crystal doesn't help either. I'd rather see the 321 in a modern case, full steel back, normal lume. Heuer has been doing similar 'glory days' models and it looks weak. Too much pandering to some hybrid market that wants brand new versions of old watches. Looks nice but it's not an honest watch. It's trying to cash in on a collectible trend and that's not appealing IMO. Omega was looking forward with the original Speedmaster, not back. I'd spend my $ on a vintage 321 instead.

Omg. This.
 
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Great watch overall, no question! Perfect? Of course not. Here are my “griefs”:
- Colored lume... would have been cool to use Tritium again (I know, unrealistic, but one can dream!) 😉
- Sapphire crystal... would be nice to have the choice at least between this and hesalite, so as to “spec it” closer to a NASA qualified kinda tool... but otherwise, this ought to be a 3572 kinda deal with a hesalite / sapphire display case-back rather than a sapphire sandwich.

Other than that, my wish list:
- watch should be sold with solid case AND display case backs, especially at this price point. Would allow once more to be closer to NASA specs;
- since the watch is “hand built” by a single watch technician, it would be cool if the papers would contain a signed certificate with the tech’s photo and a quick bio or personal note to make this a more personal and unique experienced or the buyer. Similar to an AMG hand-built engine that has a plaque with the tech’s signature on it. To push this even further... each bench should have a video camera recording the assembly so that a time lapse of the watch’s birth would be made available to the customer. How cool would that be??? 😎

In the end, do I think I will buy one of them? Well, may be!!
I will first patiently wait to see what Omega has in its store for the Apollo 13 50th... and meanwhile, I will keep enjoying my original 2998-4 FOIS!
 
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The fact it’s actually “hand assembled” or whatever is, is high on the cool factor. The movement is beautiful. Besides that I don’t see enough difference to really justify it. It’s out of my range regardless. Only way I could justify spending that much would be to flip it if it were to shoot up in value and pick up one or two things I like and return the initial investment to the bank. I won’t be doing that just saying.

I can definitely see the allure of picking something like this up for a diehard collector I’m sure it will sell well.
 
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I'm a soul-less fool who prefers new watches. Appreciate vintage, but just from afar.

This watch ticks many boxes for me. I dig the one-watchmaker-per-watch. I don't see it as a facade to slow production.

Still, it's over-priced. FOIS ticks many of the same boxes. Yet I don't see this hurting Omega's brand as many seem worried about. Slapping "007" obnoxiously on things as done in the past hurts it more from my perspective.