Bonham’s Fake Seamaster 300

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masteroftime

·Tues. 2:34pm

Not sure how junk like this still gets through… 🍿

Starting bid of €3,000 with an estimate of €3,000 - €4,000

https://www.bonhams.com/auction/317...ique-seamaster-300-ref-14755-61sc-circa-1961/

 

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alexei.joukovski

·Tues. 10:42pm

What makes you think its fake? It looks like a later service bezel, lume looks like tritium - maybe the dial has been reprinted but hard to see as it could be some weird AI shit they use on the photos.
It doesn't look like one of the chinese/vietnamese fantasy cases that popped up after the whole WatchCo thing.

 

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masteroftime

·Tues. 10:53pm

1) Bezel is not even close. They never made a bezel of that font and with the fat knurling. Bezel is totally consistent with the Vietnamese fake cases.

2) Anyone can mix together tritium looking lume. Dial is totally fake. Has the well known "stubbies" tell and incorrect font from the Vietnamese fakes.

3) 14744-61 is a straight lug reference, but the midcase is a later generation twisted lug case (Ref. 165.024). The midcase may or may not be real. However, the crown is way too small for that case.

So fake bezel, fake dial, wrong or fake caseback, wrong crown, and maybe a real midcase?

Here are some examples for reference:

Edited: 1:11am yesterday

 

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liquidsongbird

·5:41am yesterday

Not that I am in the market, but how on earth can anyone have any confidence in auctions? This sort of thing seems pretty rampant.

 

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ketiljo

·11:36am yesterday

The Bonhams "specialist", Mr. de Lamberterie should be ashamed of himself!

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TexOmega

·11:52am yesterday

liquidsongbird

Not that I am in the market, but how on earth can anyone have any confidence in auctions? This sort of thing seems pretty rampant.

Auctions have one purpose, extract money for their clients and themselves.

 

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southtexas

·1:26pm yesterday

That watch really is so laughably bad that it wouldn't make it through an ebay auction. I thought Bonham's took the watches into their custody for review/auction? If so, how did this get past them?

 

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redpcar

·2:03pm yesterday

Email him.

 

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padders

·2:35pm yesterday·Oooo subtitles!

Or put poo through his letter box and shout bellend when you run off. Different strokes for different folks.

 

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redpcar

·2:44pm yesterday

I had to look this one up. "Dickhead". Got it.