Batavi Kosmopoliet GMT ----- ETA 2893-2

abrod520

I'd actually pulled my funding before, as I wasn't too into any of those colorways and I figured I'd just sit it out. Which is good, because I do quite like the gray and it seems it's a separate product rather than just being able to choose it after the campaign, so I may back again and go with that one. I also have the Yema, but found it's a bit too nice to fill the travel watch role I bought it for so I've actually put that up for sale.

One issue I have with them though is the bezel numerals are misaligned - they're all upright, so 0800 thru 1600 will be upside down when you're viewing those timezones.... maybe something worth verifying on IG before production?

abrod520

I think I'm gonna sit this one out unless there's an update about the bezel being aligned properly - I don't think I want a watch with the numerals all facing upright.

abrod520

I think either depends on the grade of the ebauche and how much work went into it. I have a $250 micro with a 2892 keeping chronometer-grade time, and I've had TAGs with 2892s run terribly from new.

abrod520

I think you misunderstand.

So, a basic primer: Off-the-shelf movements are sold as what's called "ebauche" - which is the basic movement, without any customization. However, they're sold in different grades (at diffferent price points) - the ETA 2892 for instance, can be purchased in bulk as either a cheap basic movement up to a chronometer-rated, finished movement with a few grades in-between the two. Traditionally, the watch manufacturer who has bought these movements then decorates and regulates them to their own specification.

What I said with my previous statement was that asking how much better the ETA is versus the Soprod movement, has a whole lot more to do with two factors.

ONE:


What this means is that if a chronometer-grade Soprod ebauche is available in the Batavi GMT for less than the same cost as a lower-grade ETA ebauche, the watch may keep better time despite it being a "cheaper" movement.

TWO:


What this means is how much customization (essentially refinement ) Batavi is putting into the movements they source from Soprod and ETA. This includes regulation of the movements, so again, if Batavi is sourcing Soprod movements for less than their equivalent ETA counterparts and is then making up the price difference by ensuring that the movements are performing at a higher level, the Soprods may be the better option. On the other hand, if Batavi is finishing the movements with the same amount of effort regardless of where the base movement comes from, it could be the case that the ETA performs better.

pIoNeErOfThEnILe

not trying to be an ass, and i appreciate your answer. but it wasn't really what i was looking for. i was looking for a much higher level answer......not this is better becuse of xyz......i say this because not long ago soprod was on the up and up..and considered par with the 289

ConElPueblo

With responses like this and your previous, you may not try to be an ass, but you achieve it marvelously anyway.

sonicosa

They cancelled the ETA version? That’s what I would have gone with if I had backed them, so guess it wouldn’t have worked out anyways.

Once @abrod520 pointed out the upside down numbers though, that was a no go for me.