Bad newbie purchase AKA How many things can be wrong with a 300$ Omega Seamaster from Peru?

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@Rometx this is NOT a good purchase at all buddy. You could have sent me a link or some pictures and I would have given you some insight about it.
I don't want to tell you what to do with your money, but I would return it honestly. Maybe if this was a 50$ purchase it was OK I guess, otherwise...

PS: People, please, stop buying watches from India and South America unless it's some rare genuine watch that, by some miracle, ended up over there...
I already know it is not a good purchase, believe me 馃槵
 
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We all make mistakes. Yours is repairable, though, so that's a very good thing, if you ask me. 馃榾 You learn a lot more about things and life when you make mistakes than when you don't. 馃摉
 
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Is it that bad?
Better waste 30 dollars than 300 - as you would be doing if you kept it.
Lucky that the seller allows for returns.
And lucky you got to learn your lesson for such a cheap price.
 
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Better waste 30 dollars than 300 - as you would be doing if you kept it.
Lucky that the seller allows for returns.
And lucky you got to learn your lesson for such a cheap price.
I specifically picked a watch which could be returned if need be.
 
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I agree wholeheartedly with @gatorcpa. 80% of my watch purchases have been from eBay and there are some gems to be found with a little patience, some knowledge, and the right folks (OF) to back you up. Good luck.
 
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That's a terrible dial. It should be returned and chalk up the lost return shipping as part of your education.
 
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I have not yet decided what I will do with the watch. As I am planning on becoming a serious collector, I want to get rid of it - haven't figured out the best way to do it though. One of my friends has taken an interest in the watch, and she is considering buying it for the original price + shipping which is highly unlikely, because I have told her everything I know about it and you guys helped me find out.

As for the poor Seamster itself, there is a suspicious rattling inside the case, and I have yet to take it to an experienced watchmaker.

Like everyone says, send it back. I wouldn't sell it to a friend even with full disclosure of the issue(s).

I think the crystal tension ring has been fitted upside down, it's hard to tell from the pictures. That might enable the movement to be fitted a little further forward in the case to hide the worn rotor bush which is probably why it's rattling. That part alone will cost more than the return postage. And that's ignoring the dial and other strange things.

It's a real shame but we've all paid out for mistakes.

Cheers, Chris
 
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There are plenty of watches on eBay that have real value. Unfortunately, there are far more that are overpriced, over-restored and fake. That is true of almost any free marketplace, including traditional auction houses.

You just have to know what to look for and what to stay away from.

I am tracking a rather rare version of a otherwise common watch that has been misidentified. I know what it is, and I suspect a few others do as well. I'll post it on the forum if the price gets over what I believe to be its fair value.
gatorcpa


Yeah... but I know that I don鈥檛 know enough to wade into that pool. I would definitely be the guy to buy something that is absolute junk due to my ignorance.
 
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Buying a watch online is the best way to get taken. But ever since this whole trade-watches-like-baseball-cards culture has been created mainly by the internet WIS world, the old days where you carefully purchased a watch (or were gifted one) and wore it for years are being replaced with this dynamic new "buy it like it's a can of tennis balls and sell it in three months" mentality. I realize you have grown up in a world when everything is delivered in a box to your door, but if a purchase matters to you get out of the house and go look in person. It's the best way to get something you'll actually like. Nothing lies like photographs in this wonderful world we live in.
 
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I realize you have grown up in a world when everything is delivered in a box to your door, but if a purchase matters to you get out of the house and go look in person.
Then this hobby would be very limited indeed. The fact that the market has expanded from the corner jeweler or pawn shop to the entire connected world is a big positive.

The key here is to know before you buy. There is plenty out there for free on in the internet.

I tell newbie that they should look on eBay for between 3 to 6 months before even attempting a bid or purchase.

Just like in the old days, there is no substitute for doing your homework. The method of shopping is irrelevant, IMO.
gatorcpa
 
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Buying a watch online is the best way to get taken. But ever since this whole trade-watches-like-baseball-cards culture has been created mainly by the internet WIS world, the old days where you carefully purchased a watch (or were gifted one) and wore it for years are being replaced with this dynamic new "buy it like it's a can of tennis balls and sell it in three months" mentality. I realize you have grown up in a world when everything is delivered in a box to your door, but if a purchase matters to you get out of the house and go look in person. It's the best way to get something you'll actually like. Nothing lies like photographs in this wonderful world we live in.
I don't think there even are ANY watches like 1960's Omegas in Estonia. Why you may ask? Look up our history. It has something to do with an iron curtain.
 
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Then this hobby would be very limited indeed. The fact that the market has expanded from the corner jeweler or pawn shop to the entire connected world is a big positive.

The key here is to know before you buy. There is plenty out there for free on in the internet.

I tell newbie that they should look on eBay for between 3 to 6 months before even attempting a bid or purchase.

Just like in the old days, there is no substitute for doing your homework. The method of shopping is irrelevant, IMO.
gatorcpa
I just wasn't informed enough. I am trying to fix it now though.
 
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if the buyer does not take it back you can simply put it on ebay again, just state that its a redial and the bezel missing and you should get your money back +- USD100. there is a market for these re dials because there are plenty of people out there that either don't know or don't care or both. so the watch is maybe worthless on a collectors market but that does not mean that its worth zero on another market.
 
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Then this hobby would be very limited indeed. The fact that the market has expanded from the corner jeweler or pawn shop to the entire connected world is a big positive.

The key here is to know before you buy. There is plenty out there for free on in the internet.

I tell newbie that they should look on eBay for between 3 to 6 months before even attempting a bid or purchase.

Just like in the old days, there is no substitute for doing your homework. The method of shopping is irrelevant, IMO.
gatorcpa

Could the powers that be at OF please install some sort of add-on to the site that makes auto-like this man's replies? I agree totally. I was an established (well, in my own world, you know...) collector before I went to my first get-together, or into my first vintage watch shop for that matter.
 
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Could the powers that be at OF please install some sort of add-on to the site that makes auto-like this man's replies?

馃槦
gatorcpa
 
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Ship back immediately. Any loss of money is a cheap life lesson.

When I was young (24) in the early 90's, I got a call at work in regards to purchasing stock. I had a little extra cash at the time and was coincidentally thinking about getting into some stocks. The broker had a good story, and I think he was working off of a company phone list that he acquired. I signed up and purchased two stocks over the first year for about $4,500. The stocks tanked and this was in retrospect a shady stock selling scheme. The broker got big commissions for selling garbage penny-stocks to suckers (me). I think I ended up losing about $2500 total. I even received a notice from a government agency that was investigating the firm years later.

The $2500 lesson taught me to learn about investing, never trust a financial advisor, know who you are getting into business with, do your own research and understand what you are buying, and to take control over your financial decisions. It is OK to make mistakes, as long as you learn from them. The watch you bought could have just as easily been a house or major investment in the future. Better to learn now when you are young and have no money.
 
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Ship back immediately. Any loss of money is a cheap life lesson.

When I was young (24) in the early 90's, I got a call at work in regards to purchasing stock. I had a little extra cash at the time and was coincidentally thinking about getting into some stocks. The broker had a good story, and I think he was working off of a company phone list that he acquired. I signed up and purchased two stocks over the first year for about $4,500. The stocks tanked and this was in retrospect a shady stock selling scheme. The broker got big commissions for selling garbage penny-stocks to suckers (me). I think I ended up losing about $2500 total. I even received a notice from a government agency that was investigating the firm years later.

The $2500 lesson taught me to learn about investing, never trust a financial advisor, know who you are getting into business with, do your own research and understand what you are buying, and to take control over your financial decisions. It is OK to make mistakes, as long as you learn from them. The watch you bought could have just as easily been a house or major investment in the future. Better to learn now when you are young and have no money.
This is a really good point. Thank you!
 
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Gents, help me win this one. This is the reply I whpiped up;

Hello! I do understand that this watch is 50 years old, and all minor imperfections would be acceptable if they all had been disclosed in the original listing.
The crystal tension ring of this watch has been fitted upside down to allow the movement to sit closer to the crystal in attempt to hide the rattling from the worn-out rotor brush.
There is an ugly spot of excess paint at 9 o'clock which was not disclosed in the description of the original listing nor do the photographs of the original listing expose this.
I will accept either a full refund and split return shipping or a 120$ refund and I get to keep the watch.



Mind you I have not yet replied to the seller.
 
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why make it so complicated?
This seller鈥檚 ad says they accept returns, so you don鈥檛 need to justify anything! You can just click 芦 request a return禄 and say 芦I don鈥檛 like it 禄.
You could also add, but that鈥檚 overkill 芦upon examination it turns out the dial is refinished 禄.
End of story.
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why make it so complicated?
This seller鈥檚 ad says they accept returns, so you don鈥檛 need to justify anything! You can just click 芦 request a return禄 and say 芦I don鈥檛 like it 禄.
You could also add, but that鈥檚 overkill 芦upon examination it turns out the dial is refinished 禄.
End of story.
Well, he said the dial is refinished. And I clicked to request a return but then I had to give an explanation why.