Automotive Exceptionalism

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I would guess, in a country like Germany that almost does not have speed limits on some of their expressways, that there are other practical reasons to have this speedometer discrepancy be so broad. I am officially schooled. Question though, since the US generally has more accurate speedometers, would German autos destined for the states also carry across that same margin for error?

The exact legislation in the EC provides: 1) no negative error margin allowed, 2) allowable positive error margin is 10% + 4 km/h.

So, if the car is actually driving exactly 100 km/h, then a reading of 114 km/h is still legal.

In my BMW daily I have a constant positive error of 4 km/h. So, 50 km/h read as 54 km/h, or 100 km/h read as 104 km/h. That is quite OK.

Cheers, Bernhard
 
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In my BMW daily I have a constant positive error of 4 km/h. So, 50 km/h read as 54 km/h, or 100 km/h read as 104 km/h. That is quite OK.

My Lotus daily was 3mph fast at all speeds. So one day being rather naughty on a dry deserted road at 02:30 when I see a half hidden police car I can now pick an exact speed to drive as they move out to follow me. Hmmm, just enough over the limit that they have a reason to pull me over and "have a word (TM)", but not enough to be worth writing a ticket. Limit plus 3 should do it so I need the speedo to show limit plus 6mph.

Their first words after checking if I knew the registration were "We don't know how fast you were going when we first saw you but..." Well I knew, but was not about to tell them. What I did tell them was that I'd just been to talk by an instructor from England's college for training police persuit and VIP-protection drivers at a no-alcohol venue. Which was true. The subject: "How to escape from a persuing police car", with video examples. Essentially -- if you have a wife, kids, cat or even a pet cockroach you care about don't try it. You might get away and still live to tell the tale but you have to drive in such a way that the odds are very poor.
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Always wanted to have a go at one of those……..I suspect that I could get up to all sorts of utter hoonery with one of those!

They are a blast and very engaging, I've yet to drive anything like it. Highly recommend!
 
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They are a blast and very engaging, I've yet to drive anything like it. Highly recommend!

With the new ones, do you still have the opportunity to burn your leg(s) while getting out? lol.
 
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With the new ones, do you still have the opportunity to burn your leg(s) while getting out? lol.

Yep your seat can get pretty warm after some spirited driving. Not as bad as the older ones, but it's definitely still there. Adds some nice character to it 👍
 
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Yep your seat can get pretty warm after some spirited driving. Not as bad as the older ones, but it's definitely still there. Adds some nice character to it 👍

Hah. I have never been it this most recent (and I guess final) generation. Seems like they were a huge improvement.
I just remember a friends dad having an '05 (which was brand new at the time) and it was unfortunately just the biggest pile of shit. Always had some issue.
Of course he had no problem with all of us kids beating the crap out of it which I'm sure didn't help things....
 
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Love those. And can't ever see one without also thinking of...

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1985_detomaso_gt5_pantera_1534188185208495d56Pantera-4.jpg
 
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Love those. And can't ever see one without also thinking of...

1985_detomaso_gt5_pantera_1534188276495d565ef66eIMG_20180809_201431.jpg
1985_detomaso_gt5_pantera_1534188185208495d56Pantera-4.jpg

We've got a lot of these locally as the dealer here was a close partner of De Tomaso and built them locally with Ford Australia tuned engines, so they were quite a bit quicker than the overseas ones had upgraded AC for the Australian heat and better sound systems. At a car show a couple weeks ago there was an early Pantera with a gigantic twin-turbo Cayote engine in the back of it, no idea what it was making but the turbos were mounted back near the rear of the engine bay about 3 feet away from the engine so the lag must have been pretty bad.

The same dealer who built them went on to create a car called the Giacattolo Group B following the Pantera's demise with a 5.0L Holden V8 in the rear of an Alfa Sud Sprint with kevlar bodywork.
 
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Had to look that one up. Never heard of it! Not as pretty, but still pretty wild considering.
 
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Like Harley-Davidsons, Panteras are a blank canvas inviting modification, usually of the "boy-racer" genre you would never see a Ferrari or Lamborghini subjected to. Stock original Panteras are getting harder to find here in the U.S.. This is one of two 1971 Panteras I have owned. It is pretty much stock with the exception of some easily reversible subtle visual modifications -- e.g., painted metallic orange recently used by Lamborghini, chrome and stainless painted statin black, switched out original side mirrors for something more contemporary.
 
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Well that answered a question I've had for years lol.
Always wondered what the plate in your avatar was attached to...