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  1. agee Dec 8, 2018

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    1923 Waltham in a 14k White Gold Filled Case with original strap-just as I found it
    135,000 were produced by Waltham
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    In the same lot I found this one-to me the essence of Art Deco Style-probably worn at some point by a "Dandy"
    1930's Longines with Platinum Case (10% Iridium), White Gold + Diamond Indices with Diamond Numerals-42 mm long
    Quick picture is from the day I found it with a Speidel Bracelet on it
    Picking it up next week after a cleaning from my watch man -will put a leather strap on
    Watch man with 40 years experience said he has only seen 3 others like it
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  2. Just Livin Dec 8, 2018

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    Love this one.
    Bought recently from OF forum
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  3. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Dec 9, 2018

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    Art deco dials.
     
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  4. Lbreak Dec 9, 2018

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    where do you guys get these art deco pieces from? ebay?
     
  5. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Dec 9, 2018

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    And for the record— a chronograph with insane art deco lugs offered at Phillips auction. Picture by Instagram user @Weezergallery.
     
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  6. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Dec 9, 2018

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    Hi Lbreak, ha ha— with the enormous amounts of cash being poured into vintage watches by so many people now, knowledge is power. People who’ve spent hours and years in research and learning would be shooting themselves in the foot if they gave away sources and secrets on a forum to the entire world.
    Best regards
     
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  7. Lbreak Dec 9, 2018

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    errrrm alright... I guess you are right... apologies.
     
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  8. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Dec 9, 2018

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    No offense taken, and no offense intended either by the way. I’m sure if you keep your eyes open and do some homework as so many others have, you will find your rewards.
    First and if you haven’t seen it, a recommended read is @ConElPueblo’s wonderful sticky thread called «learn how to fish ».
    Best regards
     
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  9. allwoundup Dec 9, 2018

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    S.F.L. (Societe Francaise Longines)....I am guessing circa mid- to late-1930s. I know very little about S.F.L. other than it was Longines agent in France for a number of years beginning in the early-mid 1930s. Longines watches distributed by S.F.L. are marked "Longines" on the dial. S.F.L. apparently also marketed watches of its own design, which are marked "S.F.L." on the dial, such as this example. The case is stainless steel....the body of the watch measures 13.5mm x 17.5, lug-to-lug 23.5mm, strap width is 9mm. I would welcome any additional info anyone might have about S.F.L. or thoughts about the movement's manufacturer. Cheers
     
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  10. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 9, 2018

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  11. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Dec 9, 2018

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    Oooooooooh..... how long have you had this one? So nice ! Dibs!
     
  12. bubba48 Dec 10, 2018

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    Very very nice watch.
    This is mine

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    And here below some info from Longines

    "Dear Xxxxxx,

    Thank you for your message of end of March.
    For your information, I do agree that SFL means Société Française Longines which was your agent in France for many years. We have delivered them many Longines watches but also Longines movements. They were then able to produced the case and the strap under license from Longines.
    In this case, the name Longines was on the dial.
    On the pictures you have sent me, we can see the watch is made by SFL, under their name. In addition, our chief watchmaker confirms the movement is not made by Longines.
    So as far we do suppose SFL made their own production but we can’t find any archives in Longines to prove it.
    If I find something in the near future, I will let you know.
    I hope this information will be of help to you and remain at your entire disposal for any further information you may need.

    Best regards,

    Jennifer Bochud
    Museum Curator"
     
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  13. Archer Omega Qualified Watchmaker Dec 10, 2018

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    Lugs along with the case on that Vulcain reminded me of this, which resides with it's mate in my living room...

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  14. allwoundup Dec 10, 2018

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    Unknown (at the moment) manufacturer....most likely Swiss....predating the mid-1920s. The clam shell case is 0.925 silver, and is marked on the interior with a "standing bear with raised paws", which was the Swiss hallmark used to denote high silver purity between end of 1880 and 1933. Thereafter, the hallmark was changed to a grouse. I would be curious to know why the Swiss went to the bother to change from bear to grouse. The power of the "grouse lobby" perhaps?

    In the mid-1920s, the Swiss introduced the system of "Poincon de Maitre" (literally "Punch of The Master"), more commonly known as the "Collective Responsibility Mark" to identify the actual maker of watch cases. As this watch lacks such a mark, I am assuming it predates the mid-1920s.

    The case measures 26.3mm wide, 34.5mm lug-to-lug, and the lug width is a little over 20mm. The crystal is glass, an rather scratched.

    The dial is likely a redial, and bears no indication as to the watch's manufacturer. Nor does the bottom of the movement have any marks indicating who might have manufactured it. When I send this piece off to my watchmaker for service, and he removes the dial, the watch's manufacturer might be revealed. In the interim, I would welcome any insights/observations from fellow OF members. Cheers
     
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  15. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Dec 10, 2018

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    Not a new addition, probably had this one for at least ten years, probably longer.
     
  16. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Dec 10, 2018

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    Lucky you, I hope you wear it!
     
  17. Helvetia History Dec 11, 2018

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    Rose gold stepped case Helvetia (by NK Co), hallmarked for 1948.

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  18. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Dec 11, 2018

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    Another art deco style watch- but made recently from reclaimed ebony and bronze.... aptly named « Asmara » in tribute to a hard to reach and far away place in Africa where art deco has been conserved in a time capsule since the 1930s. I wish I could see that place, for the sake of history, even though the architecture was brought by Italian colonizers at a time Italy wasn’t exactly a democracy.
    The artisan watch is an unsolicited plug for @Santecastignaniwatch (Sante is a collector, a humanist and a respected member of the Italian forum Orologi e Passioni).
    Stay tuned for pictures of Asmara, capital of Eritrea- the only place in Africa where you will find capuccino and mussolini-era architecture.
     
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  19. Syrte MWR Tech Support Dept Dec 11, 2018

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    A very
    Very nice and interesting watch, agree with @bubba48 - and I really like yours too!

    On a separate note, here are some pictures of Asmara Eritrea. Guess some of it looks like so called streamline art deco (and I’m not even posting the stuff that’s not art deco but «futuristic» or «modernist »).
     
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  20. warrydog Dec 13, 2018

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    Is that a speaker? please tell us more
     
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