Applied logo speedmaster dial

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moorey

·Aug 22, 2023

Swopped out the MkII bits and sold it on eBay and put the case into stock.

 

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Nickn

·Aug 30, 2023

It arrived today
I’ll swap the dial at the weekend

 

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moorey

·Aug 30, 2023

Nice when things go to plan.

 

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Risto

·Aug 31, 2023

So, this dial has modified feet to fit on the cal 861?

 

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Nickn

·Aug 31, 2023

Risto

So, this dial has modified feet to fit on the cal 861?

I don’t know if it’s off an 861 originaly
Scrip looks the same as another 71 stepped dial moonwatch I have ????

 

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Nickn

·Aug 31, 2023

Could it be a 69??

 

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Nickn

·Aug 31, 2023

The applied logo dial that is

 

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·Aug 31, 2023·Prolific Speedmaster Hoarder

Risto

So, this dial has modified feet to fit on the cal 861?

Yes, the feet are different from 321 to 861. You may find the feet have been removed and the dial has been glued on.

 

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pascs

·Aug 31, 2023

A 321 dial fits to the 861 movement, the dial pins just need to be slimmed down and shortened.

This is an old 321 dial I had and fitted it to 861 movement

 

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Nickn

·Aug 31, 2023

But is the dial defiantly a 321??

 

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ndgal

·Aug 31, 2023

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But is the dial defiantly a 321??

It is not of any acceptable 321 dial variant.

 

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Nickn

·Aug 31, 2023

So what is it?
Under a loupe it’s not a repaint
Script looks like my 71
Transitional?

 

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ndgal

·Aug 31, 2023

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So what is it?
Under a loupe it’s not a repaint
Script looks like my 71
Transitional?

It is a different variant of a ‘long hour indices’ Speedmaster Professional dial.
It is fitted to an 861 movement which means it could not have 321 style dial feet.

It also has ‘Narrow T’s’ on the bottom which doesn’t line up with any 861 Applied logo dial.
Additionally, if you carefully examine the OMEGA Speedmaster Professional print on the dial you’d notice that it does not match up with any of the acceptable dial variants deemed correct by literature and scholars for any of the ‘Pre-moon’ Speedmaster Professional references.

I have seen one more MKII with this type of dial in the past. Unfortunately, I do not have photos.

We could only assume that this is some sort of a Applied logo dial with 861 feet that somehow found its way into this watch.

I have also seen applied logo Pre-Professional dials (with narrow T’s) that had 861 feet, so we know such dials were indeed manufactured by Singer at some point, yet are not correct for any of the known Speedmaster references.

 

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Nickn

·Aug 31, 2023

So it’s a fake?
Or
Could it be a service dial?

 

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ndgal

·Aug 31, 2023

N Nickn

So it’s a fake?
Or
Could it be a service dial?

Not a fake.
Could be some variant of an early service dial that found its way into this watch.

 

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Nickn

·Aug 31, 2023

Thanks
I’ll go ahead and swap the dials
At least the mark 11 will be correct!

 

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Nickn

·Nov 9, 2023

Swapped
Applied logo dial was for a 861
Service dial??

 

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moorey

·Nov 9, 2023

Not a bad result, well done.

 

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pascs

·Nov 9, 2023

I dont think it can be a service dial for 861 as it has the narrow T SWISS MADE T - this was superseded by the wide version before the 861 was produced.

But anyway it looks like a great dial 👍

 

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Nickn

·Nov 9, 2023

Thanks
The watch maker said it was original ie it hadn’t been re-finish
It would be nice to know what it is