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Antiquorum Sale - No Pre 78's Sold!

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I agree, I wouldn’t be a bidder on either watch as they’re really not that attractive to me.

As for the modern vintage substitution phenomenon, I think there is something to be said for that. I purchased an Ed White from @Spacefruit a few years ago only to sell it after a short ownership. Nothing wrong with the watch, it just didn’t sing to me.

Fast forward to the EW re-issue, I’m quite intrigued with this model and can easily see myself owning one in the near future. I love everything about it specially how closely it resembles the OG for a lot less money. I can’t remember the last time a modern Omega watch even remotely captured my attention. And for the record, I haven’t bought anything modern in 15yrs with the exception of the TinTin.
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Fast forward to the EW re-issue, I’m quite intrigued with this model and can easily see myself owning one in the near future.

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I think this auction result confirms what we all have been saying for quite some time, the market is soft for suboptimal examples. Maybe even getting softer. I try not to ever make too much about one particular auction result.
 
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I think this auction result confirms what we all have been saying for quite some time, the market is soft for suboptimal examples. Maybe even getting softer. I try not to ever make too much about one particular auction result.
It needed to happen too, the prices paid for junkers have been excessive for ages, condition condition condition as @MSNWatch often says
 
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ATWG ATWG
I agree, I wouldn’t be a bidder on either watch as they’re really not that attractive to me.

As for the modern vintage substitution phenomenon, I think there is something to be said for that. I purchased an Ed White from @Spacefruit a few years ago only to sell it after a short ownership. Nothing wrong with the watch, it just didn’t sing to me.

Fast forward to the EW re-issue, I’m quite intrigued with this model and can easily see myself owning one in the near future. I love everything about it specially how closely it resembles the OG for a lot less money. I can’t remember the last time a modern Omega watch even remotely captured my attention. And for the record, I haven’t bought anything modern in 15yrs with the exception of the TinTin.

I assume you are referring to an EW in very good or collector condition as a price comparison to the reissue?

Also on a total side note, @Spacefruit since I went looking at the chart on speedmaster101 - the 145.022-76 has been missing off the chart for a long time - I'm guessing that this is just an oversight since that model isn't really a focus for you?
 
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Also on a total side note, @Spacefruit since I went looking at the chart on speedmaster101 - the 145.022-76 has been missing off the chart for a long time - I'm guessing that this is just an oversight since that model isn't really a focus for you?

The 'completist' in me has also wondered that, but looking at that end of the table, there seems to be very little discernible difference between anything post the -71s, so much so that adding the -74 would almost appear to be not worth bothering with.
 
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I am new to Omega but have been a collector for 20 years and I would not buy a watch in that poor condition.
 
ATWG
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I assume you are referring to an EW in very good or collector condition as a price comparison to the reissue?

That is correct. You get a brand new watch with all the trimmings and feel of the original and the worry of possible relume, fake D90 etc's...
 
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^ Regarding an actual vintage vs the re-issue piece discussion- I look at this a bit differently -
Why would you buy the re-issue if you can get the original watch, no matter what the price?
It's the fact that it's original - or close to (minus a few parts that could be sorted ) which I value...
So getting a vintage speedmaster over new is a no brainer (and all the fun)....
The issue then comes down (like everything worthwhile in life) to:
1/ how much research and time you are prepared to put into the prepurchase and then
2/ where and what platform you trust to purchase
I wouldn't dream of a watch auction purchase for a vintage speedmaster... I just wouldn't trust I am getting what I paid for..
As for this forum?
Well proof is in actions..
I have purchased 2 vintage pieces already last 6 months on this forum ...sure I might have paid a bit of a premium? but who cares (and I don't really know) and I might have seemed a bit of a PITA with all the questions..
Things is I know I have got original vintage and I know the provenance of the pieces...
Would you get that from an auction house?
It's the discovery along the way that matters for me
(I'm that sort of buyer)
You've got the put the time in though and be prepared to stick your neck out a bit on the questions..
Cheers
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As for this forum?
Well proof is in actions..
I have purchased 2 vintage pieces already last 6 months ...sure I might have paid premium who cares (and don't really know)

I’m really not certain what your point is.

But it does, sort of, seem you’re simultaneously claiming to be a noob and also enlightened.
 
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I’m really not certain what your point is.

But it does, sort of, seem you’re simultaneously claiming to be a noob and also enlightened.
Lol everyone is a noob when it comes to vintage speedmaster.... just some more newbie than others...
 
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Why would you buy the re-issue if you can get the original watch, no matter what the price?
Not everyone wants vintage...
Not everyone wants modern...

Why question why someone bought something you don’t necessarily want/like? What’s the point?
 
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What’s the point?

Also, why does everyone always seem to assume a person can’t want both?

Why have one when you can have two for twice the price
 
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Not everyone wants vintage...
Not everyone wants modern...

Why question why someone bought something you don’t necessarily want/like? What’s the point?
The question was "why haven't these vintage speedmasters sold at auction"?
The point is if they are priced at the same (or more) than the re-issues (and the potential buyer can't determine their authenticity via communication with the seller or trust the price), why is everyone surprised they wouldn't sell?
 
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Also, why does everyone always seem to assume a person can’t want both?

Why have one when you can have two for twice the price
I didn;t assume that..
I have both new and vintage watches as well..
It's just I chose vintage speedmaster (over new speedmaster) that's all..

Cheers
 
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The question was "why haven't these vintage speedmaster sold at auction"?
Yes, that was the question in the OP, however, I’m questioning the point in your message above:
lexieb007 lexieb007
Regarding an actual vintage vs the re-issue piece discussion- I look at this a bit differently -
Why would you buy the re-issue if you can get the original watch

Not everyone wants the upkeep of vintage. Not everyone wants modern. Some people want both. Everyone does something different.
 
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^ SB
I was responding to a post above that questioned "the value of vintage" (over the re-issues..) which relates to why they haven't sold at Auction
The value is in the quest and the knowledge that you are buying (close to) original
You don't necessarily get that at an auction house but when you buy new that is a worry you don't have to go thru (usually)
Forget it dude..
Have a good one
Cheers
 
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Lol everyone is a noob when it comes to vintage speedmaster.... just some more newbie than others...

I’m excited to see all your vintage speedmasters, then - 2 so far is it?
 
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I’m excited to see all your vintage speedmasters, then - 2 so far is it?
Yep. Correct.
 
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I feel like part of the reason you're seeing results like this at auction is because there's a difference between the auction buyer and other buyers. I own a vintage 145.022 that I bought on the forums. I personally would gladly have the second and third watch at the right price. I care about condition, but I'm not someone that needs everything I buy to be in impeccable condition and just shy of being NOS, so those watches look great to me. I think the issue is that someone like me isn't really bidding at auction. In my view, auctions are reserved for the most serious of collectors, who care deeply about condition and are only looking for the best of the best. So I think that's part of the reason there's a disconnect.
 
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