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·Is this dial original? I’m not used to seeing “n”s that look like this in Constellation, and the print seems heavier than I’d expect.
Answered - Not a Redial, Constellation C Case (with Updates)
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Shabbaz
·What is the modelnumber? If I remember correctly, there is a C case model with these type of n's.
Edit: I've just checked. There are several c case models with these kind of n's. For example, if you search for connies with cal 1020 you will find them
Edit: I've just checked. There are several c case models with these kind of n's. For example, if you search for connies with cal 1020 you will find them
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MtV
·I think the straight n started at around 1970.
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·EDIT - Apologies, I see your post count. Let me rephrase my post, have you checked this article on Desmond's blog? It helped me tremendously when questioning the integrity of a C-shape dial.
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·Thank you for the replies. The seller doesn’t provide the model number or serial to estimate the date, but states the movement is a 564. I’ll include some more pictures below.
Thank you for the link @Dedalus05 . Desmond’s blog has so much great info that I find it difficult to locate his posts covering the fundamentals like the article you shared - just last week I was finally able to find his post explaining the MOY test that is referenced frequently.
Here are some more pics:
Thank you for the link @Dedalus05 . Desmond’s blog has so much great info that I find it difficult to locate his posts covering the fundamentals like the article you shared - just last week I was finally able to find his post explaining the MOY test that is referenced frequently.
Here are some more pics:
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··Ash @ ΩFLooks fine too me, nice watch overall really
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·Looks fine too me, nice watch overall really
+1.
Note how the brushing is intact with only the narrow chamfer between the top part of the case and the side being polished. Nice to see. I don’t quite understand how the seller has the watch open but still can’t provide a serial (or doesn’t want to, even though the first 2 digits would be sufficient, really), but hey. If there price is right that wouldn’t put me off.
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sonicosa
·Thanks everyone, I won the auction at $798...
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·This is from Desmond's article on the C-Shape Connies, he references transitional 751 models with this new dial script, but apparently there were transitional examples with 564 caliber as well.
What do others think of Desmond's suggestion that it is a wiser decision to collect the traditional dial lettering?
What do others think of Desmond's suggestion that it is a wiser decision to collect the traditional dial lettering?
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·Thanks everyone, I won the auction at $798...
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·A very good price. A watch like this for under £600 is very good. I have seen dealers selling in this condition for double.
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·Outstanding price! The case was refinished recently, but they did a very nice job. This will be a joy to own.
Thanks! I'll definitely post some pics when it arrives.
This will be my first Connie, and I'm currently saving up for a Globemaster to mark a special occasion that will coming later this year if all goes well. I wanted to start my Constellation collection off with a vintage watch before what will be my first modern Omega purchase.
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·This is from Desmond's article on the C-Shape Connies, he references transitional 751 models with this new dial script, but apparently there were transitional examples with 564 caliber as well.
What do others think of Desmond's suggestion that it is a wiser decision to collect the traditional dial lettering?
When I first joined OF it was to query a Connie with one of the transitional dials. I remember thinking at the time it was no loss to have a rarer dial - and I think holds true for me - I still adore my c-shape. However, I think Collectors (with a capital 'C') are always looking for the perfect form of a watch. A watch model's ideal incarnation (or as close as they can get) - so they tend to go for what they see as the quintessential model/iteration. For example, a speedy starts with a 321 movement, and the criterion for the prefect speedy expand exponentially from there. For some Connie's it probably starts with the perfect MOY. So details like a "transitional" dial etc imply a movement to one side of the perfection they seek.
I am waffling, and I am not a collector so someone will likely correct me, but that is my impression after 2-3 years on OF. But one other thing it occurs to me - watch enthusiasts can be an anxious shower. So tiny details of iteration have to be catalogued at length when you are trying to sell the watch on. If you are selling a transitional dial Connie to a nervous buyer be ready to answer questions for a week or two after they get their hands on it.
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MtV
·But one other thing it occurs to me - watch enthusiasts can be an anxious shower. So tiny details of iteration have to be catalogued at length when you are trying to sell the watch on. If you are selling a transitional dial Connie to a nervous buyer be ready to answer questions for a week or two after they get their hands on it.
Or you could just send them a link to Desmonds article and wish them fun reading it. They will be delighted. 😀
Honestly, when buying a watch for myself I wouldn’t waste a thought on what a potential future buyer might think about.
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·Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
@Dedalus05 I think you make some good points about collecting the quintessential version of a watch, resale value / ease of resale, and why Desmond would hold those as wise considerations for a collector to make.
I also like the cut of your jib @MtV If I find myself thinking about future buyers too much, I’m probably looking at the wrong watch.
The transitional dial is one of the reasons I’m excited to own this watch. It's interesting to me that it marks the end of one design era and the segue into another. Plus it will leave room in my collection for another C-case Connie that checks some other boxes - smooth bezel, maybe a linen dial, and the traditional 60s dial script.
I should probably get a dog-leg pie pan first though, right? All while continuing to save for the Globemaster. I better pace myself.
@Dedalus05 I think you make some good points about collecting the quintessential version of a watch, resale value / ease of resale, and why Desmond would hold those as wise considerations for a collector to make.
I also like the cut of your jib @MtV If I find myself thinking about future buyers too much, I’m probably looking at the wrong watch.
The transitional dial is one of the reasons I’m excited to own this watch. It's interesting to me that it marks the end of one design era and the segue into another. Plus it will leave room in my collection for another C-case Connie that checks some other boxes - smooth bezel, maybe a linen dial, and the traditional 60s dial script.
I should probably get a dog-leg pie pan first though, right? All while continuing to save for the Globemaster. I better pace myself.
