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Another 145.012 with alleged “Ultraman” configuration

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Omega give out the EOA based on a picture of the watch. This was the process before it was requested as standard.

I am not clear how @OMEGuy and others have got theirs without a picture with the orange hand?

Yeah. I have read that many people think that's strange. And I agree on this.

But as a fact, I didn't need a photo of the watch, OMEGA didn't ask me anything before they sent the EOA to me and MWO put my serial # in their confirmed watches list straightly after I had contacted them.
 
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When they turn up with an Orange hand you will be a step ahead

Any speedmaster in the range can crop up with an orange hand but will it be the correct hand? Apart from the obviously short one pictured above, does anyone know the answer to the question>

Straight on and not at an angle, does the Ultraman chrono hand go beyond the minute track?

I thought the OP watch looked fine.
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Yeah. I have read that many people think that's strange. And I agree on this.

But as a fact, I didn't need a photo of the watch, OMEGA didn't ask me anything before they sent the EOA to me and MWO put my serial # in their confirmed watches list straightly after I had contacted them.

This is why it's so puzzling that they are now asking for photos of every watch. If you are relying on the actual archives for all the information, then all you should need is the movement serial number - nothing else. If you are including information that is not stated in the archives (gathered from photos), then it's not an extract of the archives - it's something different.

For me this puts any "special" watch like this in question, because we don't really know what it left the factory looking like.
 
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This is why it's so puzzling that they are now asking for photos of every watch. If you are relying on the actual archives for all the information, then all you should need is the movement serial number - nothing else. If you are including information that is not stated in the archives (gathered from photos), then it's not an extract of the archives - it's something different.

For me this puts any "special" watch like this in question, because we don't really know what it left the factory looking like.

Once again, I agree some things are strange about this watch and the way OMEGA handles the requests.

But, to be honest, the other way round, I am happy that my watch was confirmed to be a legit wearer of an orange chrono hand by OMEGA and MWO.
 
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The hand looks to be correct with the tip broken off.



Anyone who has seen these original Orange hands in person can attest that the tips are extremely thin.
If mishandled during service, (or if a dopy watchmaker tries to straighten the curved tip for some odd reason), it can very easily snap off.



Anyone who claims that these watches can be "Put together very easily" should show us where they can find that stock of original Orange chrono hands...
 
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Anyone who claims that these watches can be "Put together very easily" should show us where they can find that stock of original Orange chrono hands...

And correct dials...😗
 
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And correct dials...😗
That's a whole other story... 😉
 
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For the increase in value that an orange hand adds to a 145.012.
I'm surprised no one out there has not yet started manufacturing them.
 
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For the increase in value that an orange hand adds to a 145.012.
I'm surprised no one out there has not yet started manufacturing them.

That we know of...
 
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Do collectors in general feel like we can trust companies to judge the authenticity of their "special" vintage watches anymore?

I've read a number of threads (thinking specifically of Longines and Omega) where people have said things were authentic and original but people strongly believe they're wrong, or vice versa. It's hard to answer that objectively I know, because people will get results that they agree with or disagree with and it will taint their feelings, but for those objective third parties I would like to hear their thoughts.
 
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where people have said things were authentic
Who are these people?

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but people strongly believe they're wrong
And who are these people?
 
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but for those objective third parties I would like to hear their thoughts.

And most importantly, who are those people....
 
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Do collectors in general feel like we can trust companies to judge the authenticity of their "special" vintage watches anymore?

I've read a number of threads (thinking specifically of Longines and Omega) where people have said things were authentic and original but people strongly believe they're wrong, or vice versa. It's hard to answer that objectively I know, because people will get results that they agree with or disagree with and it will taint their feelings, but for those objective third parties I would like to hear their thoughts.

Best to research as much as you can yourself, the times I have seen self appointed experts rubbish things that their mighty eyes have not seen before only to be proved wrong.
Nobody is an expert on vintage watches, nobody. 👍

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For the increase in value that an orange hand adds to a 145.012.
I'm surprised no one out there has not yet started manufacturing them.

You could manufacture a million hands but you would then need to fake or have the correct serial range. then you would have to try your luck with getting an archive from Omega.
 
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You could manufacture a million hands but you would then need to fake or have the correct serial range.
And dial...
 
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And dial...

Not sure about that and still not sure if the chronograph hand should reach outside of the minute track when the watch is square on, nobody seems to know that.
 
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Not sure about that
100% the dials are different than "Normal" 145.012-67.

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and still not sure if the chronograph hand should reach outside of the minute track when the watch is square on
Not outside, but right at.

 
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100% the dials are different than "Normal" 145.012-67.


Not outside, but right at.


Which one is yours on the MWO website?

#26.079.73x: ?, delivered to USA?
 
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Which one is yours on the MWO website?

#26.079.73x: ?, delivered to USA?
Yes. Delivered to US.
 
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100% the dials are different than "Normal" 145.012-67.


Not outside, but right at.


Thank you, that is what I suspected.
I see so much misinformation regarding numbers, chrono hand length and dials.
I find it quite sad for sellers of these rare watches when people talk like there could be a infinite number of them and that the hand should reach out over the minute track but it is not true.
I have seen a dial on one of these in person and cannot remember seeing the same surface on another Speedmaster but others have shown watches that do look the same so cannot comment on that.
 
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