An Alternative Trilogy

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I hear you (I'm over 50), my poor eyesight was the primary reason for sliding down this slippery watch collecting slope. I was looking for something with a huge day and date display as I found it increasingly difficult to read my Speedmaster Triple Date as all the features were simply too small. I thought I had the answer in a Breitling Headwind (beautiful dial) but it was simply too big and heavy. That got traded for a '69 18k Seamaster and the rest (of the collection) followed as a direct result.

Looks like what you and I need @AnotherDon isn't a Globemaster but rather a Sightmaster or perhaps a...

...a sports Omega for Presbyopia sufferers. Perhaps something like this?

What we NEED is for Omega to steal a design from A. Lange und Sohne.

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That big, double date works good. 👍

 
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Another Globemaster fan but not sure about GMT, especially with a diver rotating bezel. To me, Globemaster is a GADA watch that is slightly dressy. It skirts the border between dressy and sporty, and GMT function seems too sporty for the design.

How about a moonphase?
 
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I think I've found my nominee for post of the year!

I wear a GMT more often than not and I think it's one of the more generally useful watch complications - perfect fit for the Globemaster (sort of fits with the promise of the name, really...).
Agreed. Awesome post. Unique. I can see Longbow's passion. Thanks for this awesome post and starting this thread.
 
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Can someone explain what GADA means please?

I believe it is 'Go Anywhere, Do Anything', the ultimate all-rounder.
 
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Another Globemaster fan but not sure about GMT, especially with a diver rotating bezel. To me, Globemaster is a GADA watch that is slightly dressy. It skirts the border between dressy and sporty, and GMT function seems too sporty for the design.

How about a moonphase?
IMHO, nobody does GMT like Rolex. I think Omega has an overall more refined style, especially with diving watches. I also prefer the Speedmaster to the Daytona - I have zero interest in a Daytona. But Rolex's GMT implantation is tops. I like Rolex's perpetual calendar too, but not the watches on which they offer it.
 
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IMHO, nobody does GMT like Rolex.

I think Grand Seiko come pretty close while still being unique. If you mean no other GMTs are quite so iconic...I agree.


Does anyone know which GMT watch equipped with a mechanical movement has the thinnest case (any manufacturer, not just from the two above)?
 
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Another Globemaster fan but not sure about GMT, especially with a diver rotating bezel. To me, Globemaster is a GADA watch that is slightly dressy. It skirts the border between dressy and sporty, and GMT function seems too sporty for the design.

I agree @EatMan with your assessment on the Globemaster as being a more dressy GADA watch than the current Rolex "chunky" GMT Ceramic variants or Explorer 2, both which I own and do enjoy for their sporty look😀 The previous 16710 was a more balanced blend of dress/sport than the current generation.

However, that is exactly why I believe it does make sense for Omega to release a Globemaster GMT, a travel business watch more elegant than the current Rolex GMT. Omega need to move away from the "me too" positioning against Rolex and leverage their strong design heritage...i.e. propose a different sort of GMT. The Globemaster has the perfect brand name for a GMT watch and has a more dressy look with the fluted bezel, which is why I think that the best option would be a rehaut or printing text on the dial similar to the Grand Seiko design a few posts ago.

The new Chopard LUC GMT One priced at US$9.5K with an in-house 60h movement and only 11.71mm thick is an example of a dressier GMT that was launched at the end of 2016
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I think Grand Seiko come pretty close while still being unique. If you mean no other GMTs are quite so iconic...I agree.


Does anyone know which GMT watch equipped with a mechanical movement has the thinnest case (any manufacturer, not just from the two above)?
Nick, the GMT Master 2 is 12mm, the Chopard I posted above is 11.71mm. Haven not found via online browsing any GMT watch thinner than the Chopard.
 
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@Robert-Jan did a great review of the grand seiko sbgj017

https://www.fratellowatches.com/grand-seiko-sbgj017-gmt-hi-beat-review/


and Timeless did a nice review of the black dial version (which I prefer, but would need to check-out live)

http://www.timelessluxwatches.com/reviews/grand-seiko-sbgj019-review

These are the new 2017 Grand Seiko only branding variants (got this online)...not sure which I prefer actually cream dial or black dial version...
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The new Chopard LUC GMT One priced at US$9.5K with an in-house 60h movement and only 11.71mm thick is an example of a dressier GMT that was launched at the end of 2016

I played around with that Chopard pointer a bit ....
 
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Hey @Longbow , had an idea spring to mind: How about making the fluted bezel rotatable (like the Rolex Sky-Dweller), and adding the alternating odd numbers between the indices so you can track a total of 3 timezones without an additional crown?

That way you can preserve the beautiful fluting!
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Love this thread and your work Longbow. What about the GMT hand being blued with a white filled arrow? I think the numerals would look nice blue as well...
 
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Love this post!
Okay, if Omega came up with a GM-GMT, that is most definitely my next watch.
I can't wait for basel 2018.
 
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Sorry to bring this thread back from the dead but I had an interesting experience this afternoon that pertains to the core of this fantasy project.

The idea was simple enough; bung an Omega GMT movement into a 40mm Globemaster case (in Titanium), add a 24Hr GMT track a la Grand Seiko to the rehaut, tidy up the bracelet sharpness issue and release it at one of the forthcoming BaselWorld events. I guessed that most of the above should be possible, if not downright easy, based on owning a regular Globemaster, handling the Annual Calendar and seeing images of the various Grand Seiko GMT models.

Well I'm shocked to say that the above actually exists, even down to the corrected skin-side bracelet comfort chamfering. The only "problem" is that it isn't an Omega Globemaster; it's, as I should have guessed from day one, a Grand Seiko SBGJ211 (white) or SBGJ213 (black).

I was at a bit of a loose end today, winding down after a hectic week and long hours preparing for my first public presentation in German in front of a hundred or so aerospace professionals. As a form of reword and chill-out I decided to go into Hamburg and see if the Omega Boutique had finished with their refurbishments (not) and ended up at the Rolex Boutique on the opposite side of the street. I was curious to find out if all these rumours about extreme shortages of steel sports Rolexes are true...they are, apart from Daytonas which seemed to be in every shop window in Hamburg. Most of the other watches that I wanted to try were in the process of being sold or had just gone in the last 24hrs (strange things afoot it seems).

Anyway, after a most enjoyable afternoon at the Rolex OB (worth a visit, very nice folks there) I planned to set off for home, but remembered that there is a new Seiko Boutique in Gänsemarkt (one of the squares in Hamburg), so I ought to pop in and see what's what. That might just have been a very expensive mistake!

Apart from having what looked like every conceivable Seiko/GS model they had a very good selection of GMTs. So I looked at the steel models with rotating bezels, then some more classical ones and finally landed by the SBGJ213. 🤬🤬🤬🤬 all far too nice for safety.

The SBGJ211 and 213 models more or less exactly fit the spec that I had written at the top of this thread and it was all that I could do to prevent myself dropping a load of coin right there and then. It was another one of those Railmaster Trilogy 30 seconds instant decision moments. Looking at pics on the internet is no substitute for experiencing these things live and I really didn't expect the GSs that I had based my GM-GMT on to be so damned good and close to what I was trying to portray. So where to now? I guess it's wait and see with BW2018 if Omega bite on the GM-GMT idea, otherwise I know who will be making me poorer later in the year.

A post without pictures is always bad form so here are a few of the GS to whet your appetite.


I'm still kicking myself for not taking some of the inside of the bracelet links to poke under the nose of the folks at Omega, who just don't seem to grasp these simple things.

The one in the middle is singing very very loudly to me. Did you notice the longer lugs compared to the GM and that they are fully drilled, i.e. great for NATOs...I think I mentioned that wish somewhere. Oh boy, I thought I was done with collecting for a while; I guess not.
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I was curious to find out if all these rumours about extreme shortages of steel sports Rolexes are true...they are,

Any idea why?
 
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Any idea why?
Sorry, no. The folks in the Boutique either didn't know or wouldn't say...I did ask.

As an aside, they seemed to like my Railmaster LE 😁