Almost perfect 145.022-69 or good 105.012-66 ?

Posts
140
Likes
167
Is it the only picture of the 105 you have ?
I don't have useful pictures for the moment. I already requested more to the seller.
 
Posts
1,717
Likes
5,190
simple for me and quite bias in favor of 105 is 321, with DON, and faceted. but not aware of how much it will cost more.
 
Posts
511
Likes
952
To me, the luminescence on the chronograph hands of 105.012-66 looks like luminova luminescence, not tritium. (Greenish color).
 
Posts
140
Likes
167
simple for me and quite bias in favor of 105 is 321, with DON, and faceted. but not aware of how much it will cost more.
1.5k€ more exactly. (11k€ vs 9.5k€)
 
Posts
140
Likes
167
To me, the luminescence on the chronograph hands of 105.012-66 looks like luminova luminescence, not tritium. (Greenish color).
I am colorblind so I will trust any comment on hands and indexes color ! 😵‍💫
 
Posts
2,082
Likes
2,840
Time for more pictures:

18742512-s7m3uf6xmdxajjqhjfa386s1-Zoom.jpg

18742512-ojvw6pxstfieyf0s3kye4889-Zoom.jpg

18742512-442afbt99lc6s8hqxezl9n4m-Zoom.jpg

18742512-3n7lmx2jbciiqa1k7mgyq7r7-Zoom.jpg
 
Posts
140
Likes
167
Just FYI, this is the kind of Vintage (quality wise) I use to wear :
The Speedmaster is my 145.012-67 that I am giving back due to its 25.8m non matching movement.
The Sub is a Maxi from 78.
 
Posts
2,082
Likes
2,840
To sum it up -as I see it- :

The -69 is far from perfect with polishing, caseback (thank you @Dan S ) and maybe also the endlinks stand in question. (see above)
9500€, even with bracelet for a -69 DN is a no go!

The 105 has a very nice case, original pushers, wrong crown and non matching chrono hand. Bezel looks a bit dry.
Parts of the dial seem to start getting tropical.

Looking at the Speedmaster101 price chart the price seems to be far more realistic than the -69
 
Posts
23,540
Likes
52,332
I understand that it has a 1039 bracelet and an Omega service, but 9500 Euros for a 145.022-69 with a DNN is absolutely nuts IMO. It's a nice enough watch, but they are just so common. At 7500 Euros it would start to be interesting to me, but that would be the high end, and I can't imagine you will get there with the seller.

I don't like the lume in the sweep hand of the CB, but that's a quibble since the watch is appealing overall IMO. However, based on his posts I am inferring that the OP prefers watches that have a more pristine appearance, even if they are restored with service parts. If so, he should probably pass on both of these watches and keep looking.
 
Posts
140
Likes
167
As a newbee in Speedmaster, I listen, learn and take your advises.
I am not in a rush, I will at least decline the -69. Might consider the-66CB but still looking worldwide offers.
 
Posts
140
Likes
167
Relumed, polished, wrong crown, chrono hand too short I think, bezel is not attractive

The 105 above is more attractive IMO
Sharp and useful comments. I skip it.
 
Posts
140
Likes
167
Love the Sub 🥰🥰🥰
Funny enough, I don't mind if a clasp is not matching on a Rolex as there are way more parts on the market than for Speedmaster.
I was looking for a 145.012 movement for mine, but no chance to find one, even on the Moon...
 
Posts
1,717
Likes
5,190
To sum it up -as I see it- :

The -69 is far from perfect with polishing, caseback (thank you @Dan S ) and maybe also the endlinks stand in question. (see above)
9500€, even with bracelet for a -69 DN is a no go!

The 105 has a very nice case, original pushers, wrong crown and non matching chrono hand. Bezel looks a bit dry.
Parts of the dial seem to start getting tropical.

Looking at the Speedmaster101 price chart the price seems to be far more realistic than the -69


how did you know the cb has a wrong crown and non matching chrono hands. much better if you have a cb and show it here.😁
 
Posts
733
Likes
1,457
Relumed, polished, wrong crown, chrono hand too short I think, bezel is not attractive

The 105 above is more attractive IMO
how did you know the cb has a wrong crown and non matching chrono hands. much better if you have a cb and show it here.😁

It's quite elementary


The chrono should reach the end of the minute track as far as I know. It doesn't

As far as the crown: It should have a "flat foot" crown, with IIRC 24 teeth. Below an example.

The "teeth" on the example crown are much more narrow and fitting for a 32 teeth replacement crown.

For the relume and the polishing I cant comment, and gladly would learn how that can be distinguished from the photo @Monobike posted.

At least it had the correct "fat neck" pusher tubes with probably the correct "wide-short" pushers.