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Advice needed on this super kontiki 130ptx

  1. Dsplash Jan 13, 2022

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    Hi
    I’ve come across this super kontiki locally. The owner is not a watch collector and can’t help me much more than with these pictures
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    From what I’ve been able to search, it all seems correct and in pretty good condition…Is there any red flag I’m missing?
    The seller is asking 3.5k€ for it which doesn’t seem crazy when looking at similar ones on Chrono24…?

    thanks!
     
  2. Geezer Jan 13, 2022

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    I know nothing about these Eterna Kontiki's, but to me it looks pretty awesome! Very sharp case, nice dial, original crystal.

    Ideally you'd want a picture of the movement.
     
  3. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Jan 13, 2022

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    Looks ok so far. Partly relumed. The bezel insert is new, but looks like Eterna and not 3. Party. 2 things to check in hand: the screw in crown should have a decent thread left and lock . See, if the crystal has the eterna logo in the middle. Most important is the bezel construction. Tension can be adjusted with 2 small screws under the insert. Many are gone.... So, check if the bezel sits flush to the case middle. Then turn quite a few times to see, if the tension changes and it becomes more sloppy. Parts for that bezel are mostly extinct.... These are very nice watches. I would not pay Euro 3500. Times have changed. If everything works well, slightly under Euro 3000..... Good luck !
     
  4. Dsplash Jan 13, 2022

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    Damn, that relumed part is too bad! Where do you think the lime is not original? And the replacement bezel too…I had the feeling that the very sharp case and caseback could explain a bezel that clean but if it’s a service part, it changes things…Are there signs to look after to know wether it’s an original or service insert?

    thanks for the infos! :)
     
  5. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Jan 13, 2022

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    If the lume triangle at 9 has more lume at the easy asses arrow part towards the center, then it is relumed. if you have a close look at the 6, the original lume thickness will be inside the upwards curved part of the numeral 6. and going from there, you can evaluate yourself. if the bezelinsert has a pale orange dot inside the triangle at 12, it should be from eterna. these original inserts click into the bezel without any effort and stay there. 3. party inserts are mostly glued in.
     
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  6. flqt-9000 Jan 13, 2022

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    I partly disagree. This should be a 130ptx-3. The crown is a simple pull up crown, so no thread. Why do you say that the bezel is new?
    On the other hand I agree on what you say about the bezel rotation, it is a pain.
     
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  8. Shabbaz Jan 13, 2022

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    My ptx has this crown... It’s a pull up.
     
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  9. Shabbaz Jan 13, 2022

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    I must say the quality of the bezel is'nt really consistent with the rest of the watch. But I really can't tell if it's original. The kontiki emblem also seems polished. This is mine...
     
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  10. flqt-9000 Jan 13, 2022

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    I am quite sure that the crown in your example is a later replacement, the case back looks sanded. Those circumferential lines did not come from the factory. The OP caseback is ok IMHO.
     
  11. Shabbaz Jan 13, 2022

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  12. Dsplash Jan 13, 2022

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    Here is the crown on this one
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  13. watchyouwant ΩF Clairvoyant Jan 13, 2022

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    Your crown does not belong to this model. Even the diameter does not fit the case cutout. For a different model. The OP crown is correct. The crown should not stand out. It is part of the smooth case line. The original, screw in crown, is unobtainable. So is the tube. The thread is inside the tube and If damaged, it becomes a pull out crown. We restored quite a few over the years. Mostly first deliveries.
     
  14. flqt-9000 Jan 13, 2022

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  15. flqt-9000 Jan 13, 2022

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    Interesting, but I want to be sure I understood well: do you mean that also this kind of crown (the one of the OP watch) is a screw-in crown?
     
  16. Shabbaz Jan 13, 2022

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    Ah. Thnx for the info. :thumbsup:
     
  17. Dan S Jan 13, 2022

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    I agree that the insert and crown are not original on the OP watch.
     
  18. flqt-9000 Jan 13, 2022

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    Could you please provide some details as reference?
     
  19. Dsplash Jan 13, 2022

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    « Not original » as in « aftermarket » or « service piece »? :eek:
     
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  20. flqt-9000 Jan 13, 2022

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    I try to provide some more references. Here are two examples with signed pull-out crown sold here in the forum:

    https://omegaforums.net/threads/ete...xt-3-2nd-generation-1966-–-needs-care.135507/
    https://omegaforums.net/threads/eterna-matic-super-kontiki.48515/

    The second one is also a 130 PTX-3 as the one you posted. If you compare the bezel (at least from the aesthetic point of view) you will not find differences.

    Here is another 130 PTX-3 sold by Kaplans Auktioner (same crown, same bezel):
    https://www.kaplans.se/en/auktioner/3547/vara/1530022