Adjusting time

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philwal

·Oct 29, 2023

Now that the clocks have gone back the hour, I am now wondering about the correct way to adjust my Seamaster from 1967. Is it safe to move the minute hand anti-clockwise, or do I have to turn clockwise for 23 hours and then adjust the date forward using the pull push mechanism?
I’ve only had the watch a couple of months, so this is a new problem for me.

 

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FSG

·Oct 29, 2023

Except for specific calendar movements, it usually is safe to adjust time both ways.
That is what I do with my watch from the ‘50s without any problem.

 

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WatchCor

·Oct 29, 2023

Yeah, same here with DST. Although with normal watch rotation and time setting I do the setting clock-wise. I figure that that's the most "normal" way for the gears to rotate in the movement. I have no logical or horological reasoning for this 😁

As a sidenote: On my watches with a date function I do not cross back midnight. Again, with zero logical reasons behind this.

 

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FSG

·Oct 29, 2023

Even with simple calendar function some movements have a quick-set date function that allows to turn hands back and forth around midnight which makes me think that without that function you could set time both ways with no problem.

 

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Peemacgee

·Oct 29, 2023·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

philwal

Now that the clocks have gone back the hour, I am now wondering about the correct way to adjust my Seamaster from 1967. Is it safe to move the minute hand anti-clockwise, or do I have to turn clockwise for 23 hours and then adjust the date forward using the pull push mechanism?
I’ve only had the watch a couple of months, so this is a new problem for me.

With a quick set movt, the safest option is to set the hands to 6.30 ( this is important) then use the push pull crown action to set the date to the day before the actual date.
Then rotate the hands clockwise to set the correct date and time.
( this negates the possibility of ‘overshooting’ the date and having to start again. )

 

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philwal

·Oct 29, 2023

Further information about the watch. It’s a 565 automatic movement. I have often read that one should not turn anti clockwise. Perhaps going past midnight is a specific problem if there is a date.

 

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philwal

·Oct 29, 2023

Peemacgee

With a quick set movt, the safest option is to set the hands to 6.30 ( this is important) then use the push pull crown action to set the date to the day before the actual date.
Then rotate the hands clockwise to set the correct date and time.
( this negates the possibility of ‘overshooting’ the date and having to start again. )

so you’re saying not to go anti-clockwise. If the watch gets a few minutes fast, is it okay to go back a few minutes?

 

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Peemacgee

·Oct 29, 2023·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

philwal

so you’re saying not to go anti-clockwise. If the watch gets a few minutes fast, is it okay to go back a few minutes?

Regarding the time - Absolutely.

I don’t know if the date will reverse even if you tried to go backwards but it seems somewhat counter-intuitive to try.

 

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malilis

·Oct 29, 2023

Amazing conversation ...😉

 

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Peemacgee

·Oct 29, 2023·Purrrr-veyor of luxury cat box loungers

malilis

Amazing conversation ...😉

Hey - we all have to start somewhere.......

 

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malilis

·Oct 29, 2023

Indeed ! no criticism included in my comments ..

 

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philwal

·Oct 29, 2023

Peemacgee

Hey - we all have to start somewhere.......

Absolutely. I have come across advice on the internet which has not been helpful or correct. One common piece of advice refers to judging whether an Omega automatic is fake. It stated that if you can hear ticking it’s fake. Well mine is genuine, and you can hear it tick!!!

 

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philwal

·Oct 29, 2023

So your advice is welcome

 

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Dan S

·Oct 29, 2023

philwal

I have often read that one should not turn anti clockwise.

Can you post some links? I know that there is bad information on the internet, but that's just absurd.

 

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philwal

·Oct 29, 2023

Dan S

Can you post some links? I know that there is bad information on the internet, but that's just absurd.

Here’s one:
https://watchrepairco.com/guide-to-...son moving the time,cause stress on the parts.

 

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YY77

·Oct 29, 2023

Dan S

Can you post some links? I know that there is bad information on the internet, but that's just absurd.

@Archer posted this but that was regarding a 1861;

https://omegaforums.net/threads/cal-1861-question-dumb.76852/#post-976533

and this in that same topic:

https://omegaforums.net/threads/cal-1861-question-dumb.76852/#post-978245

 

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Zman4eva

·Oct 29, 2023

I set it back an hour the morning of daylight savings time and I don't give it a second thought. Don't worry about it. The watch will be fine.

 

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Dan S

·Oct 29, 2023

philwal

Here’s one:
https://watchrepairco.com/guide-to-owning-a-quality-watch/#:~:text=The reason moving the time,cause stress on the parts.

Wow.

 

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Dan S

·Oct 29, 2023

YY77

@Archer posted this but that was regarding a 1861;

Yes, I understand it's not great for the escapement to run backwards. But most watches don't do that. And as we all know, the whole premise of a semi-quickset date feature is to advance the date by alternately moving the time backwards and forwards. And if you have a non-quickset date, if you can't set it backwards, if it were a few minutes fast you would have to either let the watch run down, or move forward an entire month.

 

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Evitzee

·Oct 29, 2023

philwal

Now that the clocks have gone back the hour, I am now wondering about the correct way to adjust my Seamaster from 1967. Is it safe to move the minute hand anti-clockwise, or do I have to turn clockwise for 23 hours and then adjust the date forward using the pull push mechanism?
I’ve only had the watch a couple of months, so this is a new problem for me.

You have no problem, none. Turn the minute hand back one hour and go on living your life. If this were a real problem a watch's movement would be designed to be only able to be set forward via the crown. They aren't designed like this because this isn't an issue in normal use. It is good advice to not turn backwards through midnight on a calendar watch, but at any other time it's ok.

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