Accurate dial color for 167/168.005 Constellation pie pan dials?

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Hi all! I have fallen in love with the pie pan version of the 167.005 Omega Constellation and would love to find a mint example (like everyone else!). However, I haven't seen one in person yet so I am a little confused about what color to expect the dial to be in person. In some photos and videos of mint dial examples it looks like a pure silver color, whereas in other photos it seems to have a slight yellow tinge. I'm guessing most examples in real life would have some yellowing due to aging/patina but is it really possible to have a pure silver version in a *perfect* example or is that just an illusion due to different lighting etc?

To illustrate what I mean, here's a silver looking example:



and here's a slightly yellow version:


Thanks for the help!
 
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The “yellow tinge” you refer to is most likely natural yellowing of the natural lacquer used to protect the dial. The pie-pan Constellations were made from the mid 1950’s until the early 1970’s. Over that period of time, there may have been countless different combinations of materials used to protect the dials at the factory.

Also, I believe that at some point in the late 1960’s, Omega switched to a synthetic lacquer that was much less prone to yellowing.

Don’t discount environmental factors either. Watches that were worn in damp or smoky environments are much more prone to dial damage. Also, a blown gasket or seal left unserviced could cause damage to the lacquer as well.

Too many variable to count, but the odds are that the newer the watch, the less likely it will have patina or dial damage (which to me is the same thing).
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Fabulous looking watches, I think I may have to do some research and see if I can find one I'd like to own. 👍
 
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Fabulous looking watches, I think I may have to do some research and see if I can find one I'd like to own. 👍
Nice one for sale on OF Private sales from @hoipolloi who is a trusted OF member and seller. Have a look
 
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Thanks so much for your replies! The ones with the same watch in different lighting conditions were particularly helpful.

Now I just need to find a beautiful example of a steel 167.005... Sadly I don't like date complications so the 168.005 isn't an option for me 😀
 
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Now I just need to find a beautiful example of a steel 167.005
You will see maybe one without date for every 10 with a date. The difference in price was negligible when new and most people preferred to have the date version.

Of the non-date Ref. 167.005, you'll see maybe one in steel for every 10 in gold-capped or solid gold. They just weren't that popular. Again, the difference between steel and gold-capped wasn't that much considering the overall price of the watch.

Neither of the above takes into account how hard it is to find nice examples of 60 year old flagship watches that were generally well used by previous owners.

Good luck, you will be searching for a while. It took me 7 years to find a nice 167.005 in 14K gold.
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You will see maybe one without date for every 10 with a date. The difference in price was negligible when new and most people preferred to have the date version.

Of the non-date Ref. 167.005, you'll see maybe one in steel for every 10 in gold-capped or solid gold. They just weren't that popular. Again, the difference between steel and gold-capped wasn't that much considering the overall price of the watch.

Neither of the above takes into account how hard it is to find nice examples of 60 year old flagship watches that were generally well used by previous owners.

Good luck, you will be searching for a while. It took me 7 years to find a nice 167.005 in 14K gold.
gatorcpa

Haha luckily I'm quite patient... I am sure it will be worth it in the end! I just hope I find one before prices go up too much further. Wish I'd discovered this model 5-10 years ago when they seemed to be much cheaper!
 
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This is because the device takes photos and combines light to produce many different dial image colors
 
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Thanks so much for your replies! The ones with the same watch in different lighting conditions were particularly helpful.

Now I just need to find a beautiful example of a steel 167.005... Sadly I don't like date complications so the 168.005 isn't an option for me 😀

You can also include Constellation ref 14900 in your search to broaden your scope. Ref 14900 has the same case design and dogleg lugs as the 167.005. The difference is the dial where 14900 normally doesn't have the "Officially Certified" text because of its movement.