A small vintage Omega project - looking for some knowledgeab

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A small vintage Omega project - looking for some knowledgeable people to help

Hi everyone,

I've been working on a small project for quite some time and thought I'd share it here, as this is probably one of the places where people might find it most useful.

The website is called Tempus Europa and I've been trying to build a proper reference/resource section for vintage watches, with quite a lot of emphasis on Omega.

The idea came from a problem I've had myself when researching vintage Omegas: information is often spread across old forum posts, catalogues, auction listings, technical documents, etc. And when you are trying to establish whether a particular reference, movement, dial or case configuration makes sense, it can take quite a bit of digging.

So I've been slowly putting everything together in one place.

There is a database of Omega references here:

https://tempuseuropa.com/referencias-omega

It currently contains close to 2,000 Omega references, and I've been trying to link the references with movements, dates and other information where possible.

I've also been building a section for Omega movements and collecting the old technical/service documentation. There are quite a few vintage calibre manuals already organised there.

https://tempuseuropa.com/omega

I'm still very much working on it, though. There are undoubtedly errors and gaps, and that's actually one of the reasons I'm posting here.

There are people on this forum who have been collecting vintage Omega for decades and have a level of knowledge that simply can't be replicated by putting information together from books and websites.

I'd really like to get some of those people involved.

In particular, I'm interested in things like unusual references, transitional cases, dial variations, correct configurations, bracelets/end links, serial numbers, calibre variations, etc. Basically the kind of details that you only really learn after seeing hundreds of watches.

And I don't want people to spend their time writing material for free. If someone has specialist knowledge and would like to contribute properly to the project, I'm happy to pay for contributions and research.

The long-term idea is to make this something genuinely useful to collectors and watchmakers, rather than just another watch website.

I'm also very open to corrections. If you look at something and think "that's not right" or "this reference shouldn't be listed like that", please tell me. I'd much rather correct something than have incorrect information sitting there.

So, if anyone here has a particular area of vintage Omega that they know extremely well and would be interested in helping with the project, feel free to send me a message.

I'm not trying to turn the forum into an advertising channel, so I'll leave it at that. I just thought some people here might find the project interesting, and perhaps there are a few of you who could help make it considerably better.

Thanks!
 
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I miss Ranfft. At least it was mostly scraped ...
I know what you mean. The old Ranfft database was one of the resources I used myself, and it's actually one of the reasons I started working on this project. There was something very useful about having all that movement information in one place.

I'm hoping to build something along those lines, but with a much stronger focus on references, case variations and vintage Omega. It's still a work in progress, so I'm particularly interested in hearing from people who used Ranfft extensively and know what information they found most useful.

Take care,
 
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One thing that RanFFT had/sometimes-has that was REALLY useful was the 'families' of watches plus their differences. For example, https://ranfft.org/caliber/8477-Omega-565 , see the "Family" section. I find this very useful.

ONE thing I would like: Emmy does a half decent job listing parts (though the links to buy/cross-listings are bad at best), but what I would LOVE to see is a parts list 'overlay'. Basically list all the watches categorized by the 'earliest' movement they come from, 'wrapped' properly?

SO if I buy parts movement 550, I'm going to get X parts for my 752. OR if I buy a 562 parts movement, I get Y parts, etc.
 
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Absolutely, and thank you for the suggestion. I think it’s a really good idea, and I’m going to try to implement something along those lines.

I’m a long-time Omega collector myself and I’m pretty passionate about Omega in general, so I’d really like the website to become something genuinely useful for the watch community, not just another database.

I’ll definitely look into the “family” and parts overlay idea you mentioned. You’ll hopefully see something along those lines appearing on the site soon.

Thanks again for taking the time to suggest it - this is exactly the kind of input I’m looking for.

thank you!
One thing that RanFFT had/sometimes-has that was REALLY useful was the 'families' of watches plus their differences. For example, https://ranfft.org/caliber/8477-Omega-565 , see the "Family" section. I find this very useful.

ONE thing I would like: Emmy does a half decent job listing parts (though the links to buy/cross-listings are bad at best), but what I would LOVE to see is a parts list 'overlay'. Basically list all the watches categorized by the 'earliest' movement they come from, 'wrapped' properly?

SO if I buy parts movement 550, I'm going to get X parts for my 752. OR if I buy a 562 parts movement, I get Y parts, etc.
 
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Great resource -- thanks for putting this together!
Thank you my friend. Tons of hours, and passion. Great things are coming; you will see in the next days. I will offer you free access to all this content. Me and my 2 bestfriends, who are developers, are helping me to make this happen. We started this afternoon developing what @ErichKeane suggested us. We are making a system where you write the piece you need, and it will tell you which Omega watches you can get a compatible one for. And a big matrix. It was a great idea, Erich.
If you guys need more things, let me know, and we will make it come true.

I will let you know as soon as it's ready.

Take care.
 
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Please do what you can to eliminate any and all LLM generated photos.

This image...


With all the new fangled Generative tools, there is a propensity to add as much as possible. Try to keep things focused. Its amazing what LLMS can do, but many of these new websites become super bloated in both design and substance (or lack there of in many cases).

I do agree with @ErichKeane, having a more robust and refined search tool like EMMY + RanFFT for parts and movements would be a great utility. Searching by part number or phrase and seeing all the calibers that also use this part would be great.

example being: "Escape Wheel for cal. 321" would show all calibers that used the 220.1305 part, etc.
 
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Thanks @ZWD for the honest feedback. I actually agree with you.


The image you pointed out was the only one on the site that was made as a generative composition. I asked for a composition of Omega movements for only that page, rather than using somebody else's photographs without permission. Most of the other images on the site are either my own photographs or images that I have the rights/licence to use.


But I completely understand your point. For a project like this, especially one aimed at serious collectors, I think the information and the actual watches should speak for themselves. I’ll probably replace that image with a proper collage using real photographs, even if it takes a bit more work to get the rights and sources properly sorted.


I don't want to fill the website with AI-generated pictures just because the technology makes it easy. The purpose of the project is really the opposite: accurate information, real watches, real movements and proper documentation.


And regarding your idea about parts and movement families - I'm already working on something along those lines. I have a first version of a parts compatibility matrix, where the idea is to be able to see which parts are shared between different Omega calibres and which movements can be used as donors. It's still a work in progress, but I think it could become a really useful tool.
Test it please! https://tempuseuropa.com/piezas-compatibles/omega-550

I'm going to keep working on it and, honestly, feedback like yours is exactly what I need. I'm a serious Omega collector myself and have around 50 Omegas in my own collection, so I have a huge passion for these movements, cases, dials, hallmarks, little details, etc.


I really want to build this around what experienced Omega collectors actually find useful, so please keep the suggestions coming. Hopefully you'll see some of these ideas appearing on the site soon.


Thanks again, really appreciate the input. Take care