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Root canals are teh devil's work. the tooth dies anyway and then you can get a serious infection. Remove and implant.
You need to be careful the jaw bone is thick enough for an implant. I am ok on the right side of my mouth for implants as there is enough bone to do it correctly but the left side needed root canals and bridges.

There is a procedure where by they add something so the bone grows but it was not recommended I do it.
 
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Thats the beauty of the health system here in the smallest country in the EU. It's going to set me back $40 but between the local health service and private insurance I wont even pay half of that at the end. There has to be some advantages being European.

That hurts more than the three root canals on the same tooth.
 
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That hurts more than the three root canals on the same tooth.
Do you find it expensive ? I looked at the clinics in Turkey and it would have worked out the same price with the only difference being in Turkey it would have been completed in two weeks. Here in Lux I will be two full years by the time its complete.
 
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@Twocats

Mine is an extreme example due to the complications of covid and the first root canal failed to extract all of the nerves, which led to infection. But yes, it was expensive.

I have relatively good insurance for the States. Even so, my net cost for the implant is approximately 6k. Prior to that, there was the oral surgeon who was almost 3k (did two root canals and gave me a discount), then the cost for the first dentist who started what was supposed to be a routine filling replacement that led to a crown and root canal. (I probably should have not had him do the root canal but instead gone straight to the specialist who used a microscope.) All in it will be 10k usd to replace my number 3 tooth.

While expensive, I have never paid VAT for my watches. But given the choice between universal health coverage with VAT or every citizen for themselves ::stirthepot::, I would select VAT.

One more tidbit. I may have some details incorrect due to faulty memory, but my dentist explained that most insurance covers about 1500 per year, regardless of the carrier. This is enough for the general cleanings and checkups. They said the 1500 was set back when dental insurance began and has never been adjusted. I don't recall if this was the 1950's or 1960's. Perhaps someone reading this will know. But the point remains that the amount is small.

BTW, my wife's family is originally from Luxembourg. Her maiden name is Thill. We visited once back when phone booths existed. In the phone booth we searched for her maiden name and there were 3 pages of Thills in the phone book. While we were standing there a semi trailer drove by with Thill painted on the side. I bet they all had good teeth.

Good luck with your remaining work. We'll have to start calling you Hollywood. 😁
 
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@Twocats

Mine is an extreme example due to the complications of covid and the first root canal failed to extract all of the nerves, which led to infection. But yes, it was expensive.

I have relatively good insurance for the States. Even so, my net cost for the implant is approximately 6k. Prior to that, there was the oral surgeon who was almost 3k (did two root canals and gave me a discount), then the cost for the first dentist who started what was supposed to be a routine filling replacement that led to a crown and root canal. (I probably should have not had him do the root canal but instead gone straight to the specialist who used a microscope.) All in it will be 10k usd to replace my number 3 tooth.

While expensive, I have never paid VAT for my watches. But given the choice between universal health coverage with VAT or every citizen for themselves ::stirthepot::, I would select VAT.

One more tidbit. I may have some details incorrect due to faulty memory, but my dentist explained that most insurance covers about 1500 per year, regardless of the carrier. This is enough for the general cleanings and checkups. They said the 1500 was set back when dental insurance began and has never been adjusted. I don't recall if this was the 1950's or 1960's. Perhaps someone reading this will know. But the point remains that the amount is small.

BTW, my wife's family is originally from Luxembourg. Her maiden name is Thill. We visited once back when phone booths existed. In the phone booth we searched for her maiden name and there were 3 pages of Thills in the phone book. While we were standing there a semi trailer drove by with Thill painted on the side. I bet they all had good teeth.

Good luck with your remaining work. We'll have to start calling you Hollywood. 😁
Wow, I knew health care in the USA was expensive but I didn't know it was that much. My root canals and fillings cost a grand total of 430 euros. Normally the state pays everything once you have regular check ups. I didn't so have to pay a portion myself. When we go to the doctor a consultation is about $75 and when you send your payment slip to the health services they refund about $69 within two weeks. it's super efficient.

I am Irish married to a Luxembourger and my wife's mothers maiden name was Thill, she has a sister living in Tampa. I have a few mates with the family name Thill, it's a real Luxembourgish name. I hope you paid a visit to General Patton when you were here. I go see him once a month to recenter my compass and remember all our problems today are really not that big.
 
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Wow, I knew health care in the USA was expensive but I didn't know it was that much. My root canals and fillings cost a grand total of 430 euros. Normally the state pays everything once you have regular check ups. I didn't so have to pay a portion myself. When we go to the doctor a consultation is about $75 and when you send your payment slip to the health services they refund about $69 within two weeks. it's super efficient.

I am Irish married to a Luxembourger and my wife's mothers maiden name was Thill, she has a sister living in Tampa. I have a few mates with the family name Thill, it's a real Luxembourgish name. I hope you paid a visit to General Patton when you were here. I go see him once a month to recenter my compass and remember all our problems today are really not that big.

As a matter of fact, I did visit the cemetery.


I took a rice paper rubbing of his gravestone.

Before you try it, be warned that there is a large caretaker who will go ape shit when he thinks you are defacing the stone. He's also a slow runner so you can factor that in your risk assessment.

I'm about 60% Irish, but most Americans probably are.

I have some old letters from Ireland that say something to the effect of, 'Dear brother I miss you so. Please tell me if there is any chance that we can ever see each other again.' And another one, 'Dear brother, it's been so difficult since the baby died.' Along those lines. They probably had bad teeth, too.
 
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As a matter of fact, I did visit the cemetery.


I took a rice paper rubbing of his gravestone.

Before you try it, be warned that there is a large caretaker who will go ape shit when he thinks you are defacing the stone. He's also a slow runner so you can factor that in your risk assessment.

I'm about 60% Irish, but most Americans probably are.

I have some old letters from Ireland that say something to the effect of, 'Dear brother I miss you so. Please tell me if there is any chance that we can ever see each other again.' And another one, 'Dear brother, it's been so difficult since the baby died.' Along those lines. They probably had bad teeth, too.
Below are a few photos of the cemetery from last week or the week before. Now General Patton rests facing his men and it will be his final resting place. Apparently they moved him around so much that the family threatened to take him away all together if they didn't fix a spot.

Supposedly there are 33 million (say that with an Irish accent) Americans who have the right to claim an Irish passport and having potatoes for teeth is no longer a prerequisite.

 
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Below are a few photos of the cemetery from last week or the week before. Now General Patton rests facing his men and it will be his final resting place. Apparently they moved him around so much that the family threatened to take him away all together if they didn't fix a spot.

Supposedly there are 33 million (say that with an Irish accent) Americans who have the right to claim an Irish passport and having potatoes for teeth is no longer a prerequisite.


The old spot was in amongst trees and he wasn't separated. It felt right.

Regardless, he probably doesn't mind.

This will perhaps sound like I'm full of BS, but wierd things do happen. My mother was in a retirement home and took a liking to a man named Glenn, as did my brother and I. After visiting our mother, we sat and talked with Glenn more about his life. As is often the case, we asked whether he was in the war. Glenn said by the time he was old enough and joined the Army, the war was over. He was nevertheless sent to Europe. When he arrived, Patton had just been killed in the accident. Young Glenn was assigned to stand guard over Patton's recently deceased body.

Not an amazing story as they go, but a pretty good one. It's a reminder to me that what seems like ancient history is still in some people's living memory. Not to mention the long lasting impacts of war and how it can impact generations without them knowing or understanding.

I could go on and on (maybe it's the Irish.) I once met a Luftwaffe pilot who worked as a civilian for my father who was stationed in Germany during the early 1960s. But that is really a digression.
 
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The old spot was in amongst trees and he wasn't separated. It felt right.

Regardless, he probably doesn't mind.

This will perhaps sound like I'm full of BS, but wierd things do happen. My mother was in a retirement home and took a liking to a man named Glenn, as did my brother and I. After visiting our mother, we sat and talked with Glenn more about his life. As is often the case, we asked whether he was in the war. Glenn said by the time he was old enough and joined the Army, the war was over. He was nevertheless sent to Europe. When he arrived, Patton had just been killed in the accident. Young Glenn was assigned to stand guard over Patton's recently deceased body.

Not an amazing story as they go, but a pretty good one. It's a reminder to me that what seems like ancient history is still in some people's living memory. Not to mention the long lasting impacts of war and how it can impact generations without them knowing or understanding.

I could go on and on (maybe it's the Irish.) I once met a Luftwaffe pilot who worked as a civilian for my father who was stationed in Germany during the early 1960s. But that is really a digression.
Being Irish the war was only something I read about in history books. It was only when I started dating my wife some 25 years ago and met her grandmother did I come to fully understand how awful it was. We have a German cemetery that has soldiers from the Great War and WWII, yet here we are not learning. Rinse and repeat.
 
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Bumped until 2:15pm today... I was kinda happy until I realized it was additional time to worry about shit.

Upside: garbage bin went out -before- the truck arrived today (and loaded with quite a few bagged recycle items that'll hopefully get our nearly full recycle bin through until next Thursday).
Downside: tooth hasn't hurt one bit since yesterday's appointment for today was set... so predictable. I want it to hurt first if this fella is going to kill it -- money's worth.

Sidebar: not even fυcking kidding, doctor's name is Paine -- harbinger?
 
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Sidebar: not even fυcking kidding, doctor's name is Paine -- harbinger?

Brilliant name and the parents obviously had a sense of humour.
 
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Addendum ~ Wife just texted, "Chachi, the endodontist apparently does a sliding fee scale in certain cases. Don't wear one of your silly watches today. Maybe nothing or dust off that Michael Kors watch I bought you from the mall back when we were dating?"

About to get my mouth butchered and all of sudden she's a stand-up comedian.
 
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An MK fashion watch?!?!?! I rather a fake moonSwatch first.
Kors might get me a deeper root canal discount than a fake MoonSwatch though.
 
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I feel like if I wear the Kors I'll have the man himself walking into the Chamber of Hell with me...
Michael has my six when it comes to root canals.
 
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May the Force be with you, and ask for full anastethic !
 
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Go for the implant, a long drawn out process, but I do not even notice mine now. A painless procedure. I could have bought a reduced Speedy for the money but would not have my bonny smile.
 
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May the Force be with you, and ask for full anastethic !

Thank you sir...

heading out the door and off I go.

Let the Paine commence.