A Moment of Silence Please...

Evitzee · Feb 15, 2023

Get a grip, people.....modern dentistry is very advanced. Let's not make this into some sort of existential crisis, it's easily treated. I've had a fair number of root canals and crowns over the years, not a big deal. Had a crown last year, super simple. Really, man up and just do it, it's almost painless (except for your pocketbook). They don't even do the old style impressions anymore, it's now all done digitally.

kohster · Feb 15, 2023

Generally for me the worst part of dental work from a pain/discomfort perspective is the frigging numbing shot in the gums before the actual work begins. Once I get through that I'm golden.

Walrus · Feb 15, 2023

Evitzee
Get a grip, people.....modern dentistry is very advanced. Let's not make this into some sort of existential crisis, it's easily treated. I've had a fair number of root canals and crowns over the years, not a big deal. Had a crown last year, super simple. Really, man up and just do it, it's almost painless (except for your pocketbook). They don't even do the old style impressions anymore, it's now all done digitally.

I had a root canal specialist tell me the 95% “success” rate is BS as they tweak the definition of success. I’m pretty sure given enough time and amphetamines I could come up with a great conspiracy theory on root canals and dentists at large.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4784145/

Donn Chambers · Feb 15, 2023

gbesq
If it’s an option, go with the root canal and the crown. It’s far less expensive than the implant, looks like the real thing, and will last for decades. And don’t fear the dentist or the endodontist. Root canals and crown impressions are not painful with a local anesthetic. You’ll be fine. An implant is the other option, but $$$$.

Definitely get the crown to begin with if you can. I’ve managed to avoid a root canal but I have several crowns. I just had one replaced as a matter of fact — it was probably 20 years old. The new ones are 3D printed from a scan of the root tooth. Fit perfectly with minimal fitting, unlike the old ones.

Vercingetorix · Feb 15, 2023

Implant. Mine was 3d massaged on the computer while I was in the chair and then the dentist machined it out of a ceramic blank overnight. Once and done.

Evitzee · Feb 15, 2023

Walrus
I had a root canal specialist tell me the 95% “success” rate is BS as they tweak the definition of success. I’m pretty sure given enough time and amphetamines I could come up with a great conspiracy theory on root canals and dentists at large.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4784145/

If you want to believe in conspiracies go right ahead. Right now, with what I have seen from our elite health institutions over the last three years I take their research and studies with a large dose of skepticism. They have not covered themselves with glory. If you are afraid of dentists forgo them and live with the consequences.

pdxleaf · Feb 15, 2023

Crown if there's enough root and tooth. Easy peasy.

I have a 10,000 implant, or at least will when i cough up the last 2500 for the final tooth. Insurance seems to think implants are all about vanity.

Long story. Pre-covid this was replacing an old filling. Turned into needing a crown. The temporary was to be replaced on the day the office closed due to covid. The temp fell off. 6 months later the office opened and i got my crown. The nerve was damaged, possibly from having the tooth exposed so long. Needed a root canal. The jaw got infected. Had to go to an oral surgeon. Had another root canal. Still infected. Turned out there were 4 canals, not three. Had my third root canal on same tooth. Almost 8 montgs later reinfected. Pulled tooth. Post implant.

That's up to date. The post has seated and is ready for the final tooth to be screwed in. 10 grand later.

You'll be okay.

Edit: use an oral surgeon for the root canal if an option, not your regular dentist. The dentist can do the crown.

Pastorbottle · Feb 15, 2023

Ya wanna keep quiet about all those dental crowns you blokes have………..bloody Rolex will be sending the evil bastard lawyers after you for trademark infringement

sheepdoll · Feb 15, 2023

pdxleaf
Edit: use an oral surgeon for the root canal if an option, not your regular dentist. The dentist can do the crown.

+1 (hard to like just a section of the post.)

Gav1967 · Feb 16, 2023

Dibs on the watches you will selling to pay for treatment. And good luck
👍

Twocats · Feb 16, 2023

I am currently undergoing the process of changing every single tooth in my head with implants, crowns and bridges.....

I avoided the dentist like the plague for my adult life and am now paying the piper with interest.

Top row is complete apart from one front tooth that is not perfectly colour matched and currently being made from scratch.

I have been at it about a eighteen months already as it needs to be done in stages to allow the bone to grow around the inserts for the implants.

Biggest session was 10 hours in the chair for the upper row and last week eight hours for the lower.

I decided to have natural teeth rather than the Hollywood fitted as I dont really want people to notice.

Apart from the horrific cost it's the physiological side that gives me nightmares. Like most of us I consider myself a real man and am now testing that theory in blood.

EDIT: five root canals and three fillings on top of all the work.
Upper row before:

Upper row now with bottom row in work:

Spruce · Feb 16, 2023

I’m an old geezer.

Years ago my dentist (who was then an old geezer himself) mentioned that with age rather than disease or lack of regular care, my gums were receding and that I was what was once described as 'long in the tooth'.

Partly/probably because of that, when my tooth broke, a molar not an incisor, I opted for a prosthetic (and made to measure) 'bridge'.

I’ve had it for ages, perfectly comfortable, virtually invisible and I can easily eat absolutely anything.

Apart from Mrs S (and OF) I’ve told no one. I’m pretty confident my family and friends have no idea.

Walrus · Feb 16, 2023

Evitzee
If you want to believe in conspiracies go right ahead. Right now, with what I have seen from our elite health institutions over the last three years I take their research and studies with a large dose of skepticism. They have not covered themselves with glory. If you are afraid of dentists forgo them and live with the consequences.

I wasn’t being serious, are you a dentist? I fully admit I have dental anxiety but I force myself to get cleanings and treatment regularly.

flw · Feb 16, 2023

After decades of grinding my teeth while I slept (which I suppose I still do), I got a "microfracture" in a lower left molar. Developed into a cavity and had it filled, bonded, and such. We kept an eye on it for a few years, and in the fall of 2019 it gave way and the crack went all the way to the root. So out it came. After a couple of months to let the jawbone heal, the post went in, just before Covid shut everything down. After a delay during most of 2020, I finally got the ceramic replacement installed about a year after the original came out. It looks exactly like the original tooth. Yes, it's expensive, but worth it if you have to go the whole way. And without the Covid delay, the whole process should take roughly six months or so.

janice&fred · Feb 16, 2023

Evitzee
Get a grip, people.....modern dentistry is very advanced. Let's not make this into some sort of existential crisis, it's easily treated. I've had a fair number of root canals and crowns over the years, not a big deal. Had a crown last year, super simple. Really, man up and just do it, it's almost painless (except for your pocketbook). They don't even do the old style impressions anymore, it's now all done digitally.

This.

Evitzee
Really, man up and just do it

There are countless people facing life threatening illnesses that must go for much worse medical procedures regularly. Gotta go to the dentist? Yes perhaps it's not tops on the list of enjoyable things to do but look at the bright side as it could be worse...at least the dentist visit isn't on the same day the garbage collector came too early. Even a real man would be able to handle that!

Archer · Feb 16, 2023

I would avoid the bridge at all costs. My wife had one for years, and the jaw bone under it started to recede, because there was no load being put on it to keep it healthy. This resulted in her needing a bone graft (taken from another part of her jaw) and then having an implant done.

I had an old crown from 1976 fail, and had the same issue - jaw bone had receded, so had the bone graft surgery just before covid hit. Then 6 months healing time, then had the implant put in. Finally had the crown put on late last year - it was one of my front teeth, so glad to finally have it done.

Browns can last a very long time. I still have one on my other front tooth, originating from the same bike accident back in 1976. I had the crowns changed once in the mis-90's. But the root canal on the one tooth is still good pushing 50 years on now...

I think the bridge is really the only bad choice here.

ken_hodson · Feb 16, 2023

I agree. I would opt for root canal + crown OR an implant, but not a bridge. Probably go root canal plus crown first as this may last a long time and worth trying to keep your natural teeth as long as possible. If it doesn't work, then you can have an implant...
My father has had no end of bother with bridges - they put pressure and wear on healthy teeth which, in turn, causes these teeth to have problems and possibly you may loose them.

When my root canal failed, I opted for an implant. Yeah, it cost some money but (touch wood) problem solved without impacting on other healthy teeth.

pdxleaf · Feb 16, 2023

Twocats
I am currently undergoing the process of changing every single tooth in my head with implants, crowns and bridges.....

I avoided the dentist like the plague for my adult life and am now paying the piper with interest.

Top row is complete apart from one front tooth that is not perfectly colour matched and currently being made from scratch.

I have been at it about a eighteen months already as it needs to be done in stages to allow the bone to grow around the inserts for the implants.

Biggest session was 10 hours in the chair for the upper row and last week eight hours for the lower.

I decided to have natural teeth rather than the Hollywood fitted as I dont really want people to notice.

Apart from the horrific cost it's the physiological side that gives me nightmares. Like most of us I consider myself a real man and am now testing that theory in blood.

EDIT: five root canals and three fillings on top of all the work.

What color Porsche did your dentist buy?

Twocats · Feb 16, 2023

pdxleaf
What color Porsche did your dentist buy?

Thats the beauty of the health system here in the smallest country in the EU. It's going to set me back $40 but between the local health service and private insurance I wont even pay half of that at the end. There has to be some advantages being European.

RevZMan123 · Feb 16, 2023

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for my fυcked and soon-to-be double fυcked molar.

Cracked it while eating a raw carrot three weeks ago, stayed the course - silent - like any self-respecting adult male would (who is also absolutely chickenshit about dentists) until I could withstand no more misery, and then buckled by seeing the dentist today... and tomorrow at 11am MST I am either getting a root canal (and then crown) or it's DOA and I am going MoonSwatch ($) with a bridge or going Moonwatch Professional ($$$) with an implant.

On that note- anyone here have experience with the aforementioned choices:
Bridge or Implant? Pros/Cons?

I am an atheist so no prayers but I would take an untold quantity of "I feel you bro".

Root canals are teh devil's work. the tooth dies anyway and then you can get a serious infection. Remove and implant.

A Moment of Silence Please...

Evitzee

kohster

Walrus

Donn Chambers

Vercingetorix

Evitzee

pdxleaf

Pastorbottle

sheepdoll

Gav1967

Twocats

Spruce

Walrus

flw

janice&fred

Archer

ken_hodson

pdxleaf

Twocats

RevZMan123

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