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A Good Dogleg Constellation 167.005? An Evaluation Exercise

  1. MtV Jan 24, 2023

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    I’ve come across this specific example of a dogleg Constellation multiple times in the last few days. It seems to have been offered first on „eBay Kleinanzeigen“, a German online marketplace, for a very reasonable 1150€. Here’s the link to the ad, it’s on „reserved“:

    https://www.ebay-kleinanzeigen.de/s...ampaign=socialbuttons&utm_content=app_android

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    Three people reached out to me and asked for my opinion. Then, someone kindly messaged me on Instagram and forwarded an offer (with further pictures), as he thought I might be interested in it’s „hobnail“ structure. It appears to me like the watch is making its way through owners quickly, and I think it’s a good example to be discussed here and raise awareness. For now, I won’t comment any further but leave you with the pictures. To anyone who might be on the hunt for a dogleg Connie, feel free to try your knowledge. Can you find anything wrong with it?

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  2. Davidt Jan 24, 2023

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    ::popcorn::
     
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  3. efauser I ♥ karma!!! Jan 24, 2023

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    T dial but no lume on the hands? Is there any on the markers? I can't tell from the photos. The date window looks wonky. Shouldn't it also have a cal 551, or did it also come with a date version that I'm not seeing listed anywhere?
     
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  4. rendo Jan 24, 2023

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    Let’s see if I have learned anything during the last few months.

    No lume on either the hands or the dial, but it says otherwise at the bottom follow the dial.
    Service rotor?
    Doesn’t seem to pass the MOY test.
    The regulator is set all the way on the left side, meaning the watch was running fast for some reason.
     
  5. rendo Jan 24, 2023

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    Also, I think it’s supposed to have a short hour marker at 3 o’clock. Or, at least I would have expected the crosshair to go all the way to the end.
     
  6. peatnick Jan 24, 2023

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    565 isn’t Chronometer
     
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  7. Davidt Jan 24, 2023

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    Don’t concentrate solely on the dial.
     
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  8. gatorcpa ΩF InvestiGator Staff Member Jan 24, 2023

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    Genuine caseback, fake dial, wrong movement. This one's a mess.

    Run away,
    gatorcpa
     
  9. hejsam Jan 24, 2023

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    167.005 with date..
     
  10. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jan 24, 2023

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    The only genuine part is the movement and it's incorrect for a Constellation.
     
  11. TexOmega Jan 24, 2023

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    Don't like the size and spacing of the font!!! That's all I need to study


    An EYESORE
     
  12. cicindela Steve @ ΩF Staff Member Jan 24, 2023

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    Glad to see how quickly this was shot down. Makes one proud to see how educated the membership has become over the years. :thumbsup:
     
  13. Bikerider Jan 24, 2023

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    i"m new but shouldn't it be a 168.005 because it has a date?
     
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  14. Rudi99 Jan 24, 2023

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    Since this thread has an educational purpose, I would just like to comment, the lines on the case are all over the place. The dog leg lugs are very thick, not parallel to each other, the bezel looks also very off. It looks as though somebody tried to fake it really and it is just rough.

    As I happen to be wearing my 14902 right now (different caseback though). Some pics to make my point.

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    I don't think any further word on the dial is necessary.

    However... if I am not mistaken, Matt mentioned once to me hobnail dials are only to be found on bumper movements...
     
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  15. X350 XJR Vintage Omega Aficionado Jan 24, 2023

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    Compare medallions.

    Genuine.

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  16. TexOmega Jan 24, 2023

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    Dealers running the ol' Pump and Dump........better have a seat when the music stops.....knowledge R good.
     
  17. Rogerg Jan 24, 2023

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    I'm new but I thought the medallion was way wonky/wavy
    EDIT: I'm referring to the OP
     
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  18. gbesq Jan 24, 2023

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  19. SOG53 Jan 24, 2023

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    Not a chronometer movement
     
  20. qazwsx1 Jan 24, 2023

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    Hi @X350 XJR, I absolutely agree with you but I think the crown also genuine?