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cristos71
·....but seems the market has outrun me!
A black dial connie was on the block….
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Sharp
·Nice one....I was watching live and saw that no additional bids came in....I'll bet you were happy for that?
I was able to view and confirm the dial was glossy but not perfect around the markers, I would never usually bid beforehand but others had taken the price pretty high in advance so I just input my bid and it bounced right up to the maximum, I skipped the live bidding to avoid messing with our evening plans and was pretty surprised to win.
Not cheap of course but pleased to catch it - I actually can't seem to find any really glossy ones with rose markers in my saved images, only black/white markers so that was another motivator. Now I have to spend another decade finding a clean one with white markers.
Happy to see the forum approves of the watch 👍
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cristos71
·I was able to view and confirm the dial was glossy but not perfect around the markers, I would never usually bid beforehand but others had taken the price pretty high in advance so I just input my bid and it bounced right up to the maximum, I skipped the live bidding to avoid messing with our evening plans and was pretty surprised to win.
Not cheap of course but pleased to catch it - I actually can't seem to find any really glossy ones with rose markers in my saved images, only black/white markers so that was another motivator. Now I have to spend another decade finding a clean one with white markers.
Happy to see the forum approves of the watch 👍
Oh wow, that's fate for sure! I had taken it to be YG and not RG, so the price looks more reasonable now and just shows how pictures can be deceptive.
I'll get my pre-emptive 'dibs' in now and put my waiting shoes on 😁
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·Oh wow, that's fate for sure! I had taken it to be YG and not RG, so the price looks more reasonable now and just shows how pictures can be deceptive.
I'll get my pre-emptive 'dibs' in now and put my waiting shoes on 😁
One caveat - sometimes the markers can be a bit patinated and therefore come across being RG - but can be confirmed by checking the caseback medallion. But assuming it is, definitely a great win 😀
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Sharp
·One caveat - sometimes the markers can be a bit patinated and therefore come across being RG - but can be confirmed by checking the caseback medallion. But assuming it is, definitely a great win 😀
So an update on that - I am actually an idiot, it does have YG markers, tricked myself with the sale-room lighting and reddish tarnish on the hands. I had already let Chris know directly so he could rest easy 😁. In the end I am happy to get it regardless so all good!
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·Well that was a rollercoaster of a thread for me…
I had a telephone line booked, and changed my mind at the last minute, telling myself that I should wait for a one with rose gold markers. I was cursing myself for finding one after many years that was disguised as a yellow gold.
@Sharp congrats on your pick up, and like you say black dials that retain their glossy finish are few and far between. I would love to see some photos once it’s ready.
I had a telephone line booked, and changed my mind at the last minute, telling myself that I should wait for a one with rose gold markers. I was cursing myself for finding one after many years that was disguised as a yellow gold.
@Sharp congrats on your pick up, and like you say black dials that retain their glossy finish are few and far between. I would love to see some photos once it’s ready.
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Sharp
·Well that was a rollercoaster of a thread for me…
I had a telephone line booked, and changed my mind at the last minute, telling myself that I should wait for a one with rose gold markers. I was cursing myself for finding one after many years that was disguised as a yellow gold.
@Sharp congrats on your pick up, and like you say black dials that retain their glossy finish are few and far between. I would love to see some photos once it’s ready.
Sorry to all for any RG trauma caused, there is a queue of bidders forming ready for a RG example to appear 😲
Worth mentioning the strange rosey tarnish on the hands that initially duped me - see this image below of another example Michael e posted with a similar look.
(Source: not my image Michael e posted it here: https://omegaforums.net/threads/show-me-your-2852-connie.94709/page-6)
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khangct
·Even though black dial goes for premium but dammm, $4k is quite a lot for steel version imho.
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Sharp
·I wanted to post a final update on this thread after having the black 2852 for a month. The dial is reasonably good but shows some damage to the lacquer in harsh light, particularly around the markers. A mixed result as I can't get myself to love the YG markers with steel, I don't think I'd choose to wear it over my other examples so bit of a disappointment, but it was fun to chase and you can't win them all. It might even end up in the FS section here a bit below my cost 😲.
Again thanks for the nice comments from everyone 😀
Again thanks for the nice comments from everyone 😀
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·@Sharp Thanks for the update and pictures. Lacquer degradation doesn’t seem to detract from the attractiveness of the dial to my eyes. Can’t image there are many of these left with perfect glossy dials. The 2 tone effect of the dial seems to really stand out.
Shame you haven’t taken to the yellow gold, however if you decide to sell, someone else will be very pleased I’m sure. Also don’t be in a rush to under sell it due to your disappointment as I can’t imagine another in better condition will pop up anytime soon.
Shame you haven’t taken to the yellow gold, however if you decide to sell, someone else will be very pleased I’m sure. Also don’t be in a rush to under sell it due to your disappointment as I can’t imagine another in better condition will pop up anytime soon.
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mac_omega
·And there is another option:
As this is a completely galvanised dial with no printed parts, the entire dial could be cleaned of the aged lacquer after removing the gold "furniture".
Then apply fresh lacquer and have the indices set. You will then have a dial pari NOS and can enjoy it in its splendour. Only you and your restorer will know. Is this what we call restoration? It's not a repaint or a reprint, of course.
But yes, that's a no-go for a purist like most of us here on OF are....
As this is a completely galvanised dial with no printed parts, the entire dial could be cleaned of the aged lacquer after removing the gold "furniture".
Then apply fresh lacquer and have the indices set. You will then have a dial pari NOS and can enjoy it in its splendour. Only you and your restorer will know. Is this what we call restoration? It's not a repaint or a reprint, of course.
But yes, that's a no-go for a purist like most of us here on OF are....
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·And there is another option:
As this is a completely galvanised dial with no printed parts, the entire dial could be cleaned of the aged lacquer after removing the gold "furniture".
Then apply fresh lacquer and have the indices set. You will then have a dial pari NOS and can enjoy it in its splendour. Only you and your restorer will know. Is this what we call restoration? It's not a repaint or a reprint, of course.
But yes, that's a no-go for a purist like most of us here on OF are....
I would have no issue in principle with doing that if the lacquer was badly degraded and I was sure the stripping and re applying would look good.
I would consider it a similar exercise to re—luming hands tbh.
have you had experience of getting this done? Would love to see some before and after photos.
thanks
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mac_omega
·here is an example of a 23.4 SC dial - no indexes though and the logo and Omega script were printed. So I had to be very careful not to remove the printed parts.
before:
and after:
not perfect but much better - it was just an attempt and could be improved...
before:
and after:
not perfect but much better - it was just an attempt and could be improved...
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TexOmega
·Grab the pitchforks, y’all!! I got the tar and feathers!
😁
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·That’s impressive, especially as some of the text was printed. I image any imperfections that remained once the lacquer has been removed would be less visible on a black dial.
Just hard to know if degradation is only of the base layer of lacquer. Thanks for sharing.
Just hard to know if degradation is only of the base layer of lacquer. Thanks for sharing.
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Sharp
·@Sharp Thanks for the update and pictures. Lacquer degradation doesn’t seem to detract from the attractiveness of the dial to my eyes. Can’t image there are many of these left with perfect glossy dials. The 2 tone effect of the dial seems to really stand out.
Shame you haven’t taken to the yellow gold, however if you decide to sell, someone else will be very pleased I’m sure. Also don’t be in a rush to under sell it due to your disappointment as I can’t imagine another in better condition will pop up anytime soon.
I will indeed stew on it a bit longer before any rehoming 👍. Honestly the dial surface is attractive, the images above are pretty harsh compared to how it looks with the naked eye.
And there is another option:
As this is a completely galvanised dial with no printed parts, the entire dial could be cleaned of the aged lacquer after removing the gold "furniture".
Then apply fresh lacquer and have the indices set. You will then have a dial pari NOS and can enjoy it in its splendour. Only you and your restorer will know. Is this what we call restoration? It's not a repaint or a reprint, of course.
But yes, that's a no-go for a purist like most of us here on OF are....
That is an interesting but oh so scary idea - in this case I think the dial is good enough not to mess with, but the example of a cleaning posted above is impressive. There is another member with a WG marker example with fresh lacquer posted here, with a queue of people saying dibs, so people are still keen when the outcome is good enough:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/constellation-2852-7sc-rather-rare.52458/page-2
I should add it is insanely difficult to photograph with an iPhone 13 mini.
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