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jaguar11
·Fantastic picture of an amazing watch.
8 weeks with my 300MC
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mhanson
·I'd be interested to know what parts they change (although I believe Al mentioned that part replaced under warranty aren't returned so you may not know) and also how it performs once returned.
I know my repair was held a bit because the Omega repair facility was waiting for parts. No replaced parts were returned to me but the only parts I know they were replaced were the dial and hands as before the service I couldn't easily read the time at night and now they are bright enough to read anytime during the night. I'm assuming other parts were replaced, too.
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gforce
·I have another update to share. My watch arrived back to my authorized dealer last week after being gone for 5 weeks to the day. I'm not a watchmaker but evidently my watch required a bit more service than a simple adjustment to change the rate. My receipt listed the service as 'Complete maintenance service under warranty' and, surprising to me, the night-time lume is much better than before. Evidently I have a new dial and hands. The timing performance in these early days after the repair is much better than I expected. The daily rate now is +0.25 seconds per day for each of the six full days I've had it back on my wrist. I can't detect a variation from day to day. I hope it's a very long time before I post another update.
Interesting.......mine is a month old running about +6 which I can live with, but the lume is really weak. Not as bad as the speedy LE 60th but not even close to my PO. I thought it might be the fauxtina, but it sounds like the dials might have an issue......
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dinexus
·I tried on this very same watch last weekend along with the two-tone sedna gold version at my OB. Both were beautiful pieces but the weight of the gold really stole my heart. Enjoy the watch, i'm itching to pull the trigger on one of them.
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Doc Savage
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Newbie here. I am very interested to learn about this issue, because this is going to be my next watch. I'm a bit worried that I'll have to send it in for service as soon as I receive it. I hope they are correcting the issues on new watches before they leave the factory.
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Co-axial
·Great watch elegant bezel
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gforce
·Newbie here. I am very interested to learn about this issue, because this is going to be my next watch. I'm a bit worried that I'll have to send it in for service as soon as I receive it. I hope they are correcting the issues on new watches before they leave the factory.
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Alpha
··Kilt Owner, Beagle Parent, Omega CollectorNewbie here. I am very interested to learn about this issue, because this is going to be my next watch. I'm a bit worried that I'll have to send it in for service as soon as I receive it. I hope they are correcting the issues on new watches before they leave the factory.
Owned mine since Feb '16 and not a single problem 👍
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Doc Savage
·Ok......let me amend this a bit. Last night I “charged “ the lume for about 15 seconds under a table light........made a huge difference. Unlike my PO 2500 that glows like a lantern on its own, the fauxtina apparently needs a bit of a boost. And I checked the timing again for the first time in a week. Now about +4, so it’s settling in I guess. It’s a fantastic watch........I think you’ll be very happy with it.
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peripatus
·Yes, except that if you read Archer's comment a page back, you'll notice that there have been problems with the movement in some of these recent watches. I think I'm right in saying this applies to watches boasting Si technology. It puts me off a purchase I was otherwise keen on just because of the unknown factors ... Can the problem be solved? Will the problem be solved? Will Omega repair problems without question? What happens if they drop Si tech. as too problematic??? There's various posts on this forum about the issues but so far I haven't seen any explanation for exactly what the problem is. When we know that, it will be a start.
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padders
··Oooo subtitles!There's no "perhaps" here...there's a "definitely" involved though...
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerI have heard you allude to issues with the new stuff before Al. If you feel it appropriate to share, what kind of issues are you seeing? I have an 8806 in one of my very few moderns so have a vested interest in finding out if they are solid.
Well the issues I'm referring to go back a ways, but relate to 8500 and 9300 families mostly. So off the top of my head:
1 - Hands desynchronization where the hour and minute hands would start off lined up, but would go out of sync over time.
2 - DLC barrel issues
3 - Nivachoc jewel issues
I've posted about these several times in various threads. The only one that potentially affects the 8800 series that I'm aware of is the last one - some information on that defect here:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/a-look-at-some-defective-parts.62631/#post-784069
As I've said before, a watch movement is a design that always has compromise built into it, and although I'm sure they do test these before sending them out to the general public (I know for a fact that the silicon balance spring was tested for a couple of years before it was put into watches for sale - told that during training at Swatch group) to an extent all companies learn by selling the watches and seeing what comes back at service time. All companies make small tweaks to their designs over time, and in some cases they end up replacing entire movements with a new design very quickly (in watchmaking terms) which is why for example the Rolex 3035 wasn't in production for all that long.
In some cases these problems are big enough that it results in a warranty repair, but in others they don't cause any problems that show up immediately, so the changes get made when the watch is sent in for service. In many ways these are like the hidden recalls on your car - not serious enough to make you bring the car in right away, so they just replace the parts when you take to the dealer for regular service. Omega has lists of "mandatory" replacement parts for their movements, so when I get a movement in I look at the parts to see if any require upgrading, just like a mechanic would do in an auto shop.
Cheers, Al
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peripatus
·Thanks for the post Al. It's encouraging to know that Omega has a "list of mandatory replacement parts" for their movements, though when I re-visit your earlier post on the Nivachoc jewel issue it's still intriguing to wonder what was/is going on there. Is it a problem with the jewel, the metal used for the staff or just the lubricant? Has the anti-magnetic technology forced re-design of mechanical movements that have stressed particular links on the chain, to use a totally newbie description?
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Super Fuzz
·Well the issues I'm referring to go back a ways, but relate to 8500 and 9300 families mostly. So off the top of my head:
1 - Hands desynchronization where the hour and minute hands would start off lined up, but would go out of sync over time.
2 - DLC barrel issues
3 - Nivachoc jewel issues
I've posted about these several times in various threads. The only one that potentially affects the 8800 series that I'm aware of is the last one - some information on that defect here:
https://omegaforums.net/threads/a-look-at-some-defective-parts.62631/#post-784069
As I've said before, a watch movement is a design that always has compromise built into it, and although I'm sure they do test these before sending them out to the general public (I know for a fact that the silicon balance spring was tested for a couple of years before it was put into watches for sale - told that during training at Swatch group) to an extent all companies learn by selling the watches and seeing what comes back at service time. All companies make small tweaks to their designs over time, and in some cases they end up replacing entire movements with a new design very quickly (in watchmaking terms) which is why for example the Rolex 3035 wasn't in production for all that long.
In some cases these problems are big enough that it results in a warranty repair, but in others they don't cause any problems that show up immediately, so the changes get made when the watch is sent in for service. In many ways these are like the hidden recalls on your car - not serious enough to make you bring the car in right away, so they just replace the parts when you take to the dealer for regular service. Omega has lists of "mandatory" replacement parts for their movements, so when I get a movement in I look at the parts to see if any require upgrading, just like a mechanic would do in an auto shop.
Cheers, Al
Do the same issues apply to the 8900?
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerThanks for the post Al. It's encouraging to know that Omega has a "list of mandatory replacement parts" for their movements, though when I re-visit your earlier post on the Nivachoc jewel issue it's still intriguing to wonder what was/is going on there. Is it a problem with the jewel, the metal used for the staff or just the lubricant? Has the anti-magnetic technology forced re-design of mechanical movements that have stressed particular links on the chain, to use a totally newbie description?
Omega doesn't usually give a full explanation of these things, only the steps required to correct them during service. So in this case new jewels, and using a different lubricant. If it was just the jewels, then why the different lubricant? I can't explain it really...
Do the same issues apply to the 8900?
Yes.
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peripatus
·Thanks Al. I know we buy these things based on appearance to a certain extent but underlying that, they really do have to demonstrate some sort of genius and imagination in their mechanical design, even with mass production, or they aren't special. Problem is, it's near impossible for most of us to evaluate that [sorry, maybe this is second nature to most of the people on this forum?]
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Archer
··Omega Qualified WatchmakerAgain keep in mind that not every watch is likely to be affected, since Omega is implementing the fixes as the watches are being produced once they identify the problems, so just because you read of a problems here doesn't mean you will have it. Conversely just because you've not had the problem on your watch doesn't mean it wasn't a problem on others.
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dinexus
·Again keep in mind that not every watch is likely to be affected, since Omega is implementing the fixes as the watches are being produced once they identify the problems, so just because you read of a problems here doesn't mean you will have it. Conversely just because you've not had the problem on your watch doesn't mean it wasn't a problem on others.
