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·This is a ref 6144 with cal 710. I’ve seen a claim somewhere these 1950’s California dials didn’t come with Mercedes hands, but this one have a certificate of authenticity. What do the experts here think about this?
6144 California dial-question
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerCertificate from who?
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clockoclock
·An auction house in Finland. AFAIK reputable.
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerThat says very little....
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clockoclock
·That says very little....
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawerGood point. I think the base of the watch is legit. The dial is relumed but can be legit. Whether these hands are original is hard to say. If you find 5 other examples with these hands I'm in. If not I have doubts ;-)
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Dan S
·There are probably very few people in the world who can give you a definitive answer about which hands are correct for this reference. Because it's so obscure and small, I suspect that very few collectors have studied it closely. If it really matters to you, I'd suggest hunting those experts down and contacting them directly. Otherwise, just buy it and enjoy it.
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·Good point. I think the base of the watch is legit. The dial is relumed but can be legit. Whether these hands are original is hard to say. If you find 5 other examples with these hands I'm in. If not I have doubts ;-)
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·There are probably very few people in the world who can give you a definitive answer about which hands are correct for this reference. Because it's so obscure and small, I suspect that very few collectors have studied it closely. If it really matters to you, I'd suggest hunting those experts down and contacting them directly. Otherwise, just buy it and enjoy it.
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Dan S
·I guess the experts are harder to find than exchanging thoughts with knowledgeable people on watch forums.
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·You are asking for an answer to a very specific question, not just general thoughts or opinions. Experts may exist on some forums, but I think you'd benefit from figuring out who might really know the answer. The people that I'm thinking of don't frequent this forum at all. If this were a Submariner, Daytona, Datejust, Explorer, or GMT-Master, there would be dozens or hundreds of knowledgable people who could help, but a watch like this is really in the weeds. I'm just trying to give you advice that might be helpful, because that's what I would do in your position. I've bought some obscure references, and it takes a lot more effort to research them.
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spacemission
·Write to perezcope.
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Mark020
··not the sharpest pencil in the ΩF drawer
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...You are asking for an answer to a very specific question, not just general thoughts or opinions. Experts may exist on some forums, but I think you'd benefit from figuring out who might really know the answer. The people that I'm thinking of don't frequent this forum at all. If this were a Submariner, Daytona, Datejust, Explorer, or GMT-Master, there would be dozens or hundreds of knowledgable people who could help, but a watch like this is really in the weeds. I'm just trying to give you advice that might be helpful, because that's what I would do in your position. I've bought some obscure references, and it takes a lot more effort to research them.
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spacemission
·Yes and lots of those experts built these in the 80's....
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Foo2rama
··Nowhere near as grumpy as he used to be...Where were those experts from?
They were not doing anything wrong either. It was a different time, and they created a demand with stories and filled it.
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