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60th Anniversary '57 Speedmaster

Tire-comedon
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Same for me : I ordered mine when it was announced at Basel in march. Left a very significant deposit to my usual Paris OB. I didn't ask for a specific number (I have no preference) so I thought I would not have to wait for a specific one and could have an early arrival. I know the OB has served others that ordered in june or even later, so they don't follow order number.
I am also unhappy because I called them beginning of november, they then promised me I would be the next served. No news since then. When I called them today, they said that I had to wait and they couldn't give any delivery date (they said it can be in two, three weeks or more). When I recalled them that they promised I would be next on the list and said I was surprised that they didn't have any delivery since then, they were embarrassed and didn't confirm that they didn't receive any watch during the last two months. I really don't understand how they decide who is seved first, or how couldn't a company like Omega manage the production of 3557 watches in four months. They either control absolutely nothing or, as I read somewhere, they organise on purpose long waiting lists with the hope that it will create the false impression that is is a rare watch. Whatever the explanation, this attitude just kills the happiness of buying this model and all willingness to buy again new from an OB.
 
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I feel for you guys' pain. I can only speculate that there are preferred OBs and ADs that are getting their allotments first. Either that or shipping is throwing darts at a world map. 🙁
 
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Same for me : I ordered mine when it was announced at Basel in march. Left a very significant deposit to my usual Paris OB. I didn't ask for a specific number (I have no preference) so I thought I would not have to wait for a specific one and could have an early arrival. I know the OB has served others that ordered in june or even later, so they don't follow order number.
I am also unhappy because I called them beginning of november, they then promised me I would be the next served. No news since then. When I called them today, they said that I had to wait and they couldn't give any delivery date (they said it can be in two, three weeks or more). When I recalled them that they promised I would be next on the list and said I was surprised that they didn't have any delivery since then, they were embarrassed and didn't confirm that they didn't receive any watch during the last two months. I really don't understand how they decide who is seved first, or how couldn't a company like Omega manage the production of 3557 watches in four months. They either control absolutely nothing or, as I read somewhere, they organise on purpose long waiting lists with the hope that it will create the false impression that is is a rare watch. Whatever the explanation, this attitude just kills the happiness of buying this model and all willingness to buy again new from an OB.
I agree, while I managed to get one, it has definitely pushed me away from Omega.
 
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Those of you meditating on the seemingly arbitrary delays in receiving these should spare a thought for those who ordered the Speedy Tuesday about 11 months ago and still haven’t received it. Those are now nearly 6 months later than originally promised. I have a feeling that delays on both these pieces are due to unexpected QC issues, possibly dial related.

It will arrive when it arrives.
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Those if you meditating on the seemingly arbitrary delays in receiving these should spare a thought for those who ordered the Speedy Tuesday about 11 months ago and still haven’t received it. Those are now nearly 6 months later than originally promised. I have a feeling that delays on both these pieces are due to unexpected QC issues, possibly dial related.

It will arrive when it arrives.
Interesting, there must be some kind of QC issue...It is so frustrating when one sees other folk getting theirs and posting pics on social media, and you sit waiting 😕.
 
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Interesting, there must be some kind of QC issue...It is so frustrating when one sees other folk getting theirs and posting pics on social media, and you sit waiting 😕.
My guess is that Omega has a 'manufacturing capacity' deficit. I believe I read on another forum that the same facility manufactures all the Speedy cases. Omega overpromised and underdelivered on all these Speedy editions. Someone in their executive ranks forgot basic math! I also believe they just opened a new production facility at the beginning of November. But, once again, this is my 'best guess' at Omega's delays!
 
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My guess is that Omega has a 'manufacturing capacity' deficit. I believe I read on another forum that the same facility manufactures all the Speedy cases. Omega overpromised and underdelivered on all these Speedy editions. Someone in their executive ranks forgot basic math! I also believe they just opened a new production facility at the beginning of November. But, once again, this is my 'best guess' at Omega's delays!

My suggestion, mentioned above, is based on a few observations.

Firstly there have been numerous complaints, acknowledged by Omega themselves, regarding the quality of the dial fitted to the Speedy Tuesday. Complaints have ranged from missing lume, poor printing etc etc. Secondly as discussed on this very forum at length, there are 2 distinct versions of dials being fitted to the 60th Anni Speedmaster, suggesting to me that at some point either supplier or design was changed for some reason. I have personally noticed several 60th dials with wobbly or imperfect lume which may be linked to this change in design/supplier.

Pure supposition here but if the company supplying dials for these Omega LEs dropped the ball and had to be replaced, or at least asked to pull their finger out, try harder and redo a batch, it could be the reason for the substantial delays on both these models. Of course I may be wide of the mark and my observations may have no bearing on the delay at all. The more I hear though, the more I am inclined to think that dial factors are the smoking gun here: both models use cases and movements which have been used before in series production so should have in theory no snags to speak of, the dials though are obviously bespoke.
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Secondly as discussed on this very forum at length, there are 2 distinct versions of dials being fitted to the 60th Anni Speedmaster, suggesting to me that at some point either supplier or design was changed for some reason. I have personally noticed several 60th dials with wobbly or imperfect lume which may be linked to this change in design/supplier.

Can you expand on this please? I've gone through this thread and see only one mention of Type 1 and Type 2 dials, and honestly I cant discern any difference between the two.

Below are pictures of a Type 1 and Type 2 dial respectively (per posters on this thread). Maybe you can point out some differences.

Also, can you include a picture of what you mean by "wobbly or imperfect lume"?

Thanks!
 
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I would rather not expand on the 2 dial types since it would be rather hypocritical if I did so: I gave another contributor to the trilogy thread who originally flagged up the existence of the 2 dial types a lot of grief when he declared one correct and one wrong but I understand that the font of the G and p are part of the differences. Regarding less than perfect lume application, here is a blow up of of a 60th dial. I have seen others which don't look too clever under a loupe or magnification too, fine with the eye, not so great up close:

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Those if you meditating on the seemingly arbitrary delays in receiving these should spare a thought for those who ordered the Speedy Tuesday about 11 months ago and still haven’t received it. Those are now nearly 6 months later than originally promised. I have a feeling that delays on both these pieces are due to unexpected QC issues, possibly dial related.

It will arrive when it arrives.

I suppose it is the same situation for both. I was proposed a ST by my OB in september although I hadn’t reserved one from them. At the same time people like you are still not served...

It could be a simple loss of control on production processes (QC issues or other) but it can also be a voluntary restriction.

Some QC issues on the caseback were invoked for the delay on the Snoopy. Some on the dial where indexes were printed on luminova painted subdials) for the ST. Both were relating to new techniques for Omega. Maybe we'll hear something for the Speed 60th L.E., but I see nothing new in this watch : the caliber is a standard 1861, the case is of the same type as the FOIS, the dial/ hands are of the same type as the Railmaster or Seamaster ones. If there are QC issues on such a model, that is quite worrying.

On the other hand some say that Swiss watch brands now have the Rolex/Daytona model in mind : by making access to the model long and difficult, you give the impression that it is rare and exclusive. They would also avoid to have the very same model proposed on grey market or second hand market, at the same time as it is sold by OB or AD but at a much lower price. Therefore, clients wouldn’t have the impression that they paid too much for what they got. This strategy anyway can’t be done for mainstream already largely produced models, like the speedmaster moonwatch. But could fit for so called limited edition.

Let's take the example of the trilogy. The first Speed 60th have been released with acceptable delay (like two months, nothing unseen). So the watch isn’t a phantasm, it exists, people cand see it on fora and instagram, but although they reserved, paid a deposit, even though some are good clients with a significant purchase history with their OB or AD, they can’t obtain it easily and have to wait an extra 6, 9 or more months. At the same time, the less sought after Railmaster 60th doesn't face the same production issues and clients who wanted the Speed 60th and face difficulties have the impression that they are lucky to have access to.something difficult to dig out.
Whether voluntary limitation or productino issues, it seems to for the benefit of Omega sales!
 
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Can you expand on this please? I've gone through this thread and see only one mention of Type 1 and Type 2 dials, and honestly I cant discern any difference between the two.

Below are pictures of a Type 1 and Type 2 dial respectively (per posters on this thread). Maybe you can point out some differences.

Also, can you include a picture of what you mean by "wobbly or imperfect lume"?

Thanks!
As padders mentioned the discussion about the two different dials is in the "OMEGA 1957 Trilogy Limited Editions ..." thread. Essentially the differences in the dials are only differences in the fonts of the "OMEGA" and "Speedmaster" on the dials, most noticeable in the "G" in Omega and the "p" in Speedmaster. I don't believe there is one "right" dial and one "wrong" dial, but the version 1 dial is the one in photos of Speedmasters on the Omega website and is the same font as on the original CK2915-1 belonging to the member who first pointed out this difference.
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I feel for you guys' pain. I can only speculate that there are preferred OBs and ADs that are getting their allotments first. Either that or shipping is throwing darts at a world map. 🙁

I feel for you guys too, I found one at an AD in Florida (I live in NYC), it was a random dart throw inquiry, it was available and I just received it in the mail today.
 
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I feel for you guys too, I found one at an AD in Florida (I live in NYC), it was a random dart throw inquiry, it was available and I just received it in the mail today.

Congratulations, Shek!
 
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My 60th Speedmaster arrived the week before Christmas with the number 1320. Yesterday I picked up my ST, ( I know I’m very lucky.) and found that the edition number is 1321, what are the odds!

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The problem now is which to wear, decisions, decisions.
 
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My 60th Speedmaster arrived the week before Christmas with the number 1320. Yesterday I picked up my ST, ( I know I’m very lucky.) and found that the edition number is 1321, what are the odds!
The problem now is which to wear, decisions, decisions.

Ha! Very cool! Congratulations on both, SS! Time to find the perfect straps!
 
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My 60th Speedmaster arrived the week before Christmas with the number 1320. Yesterday I picked up my ST, ( I know I’m very lucky.) and found that the edition number is 1321, what are the odds!

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The problem now is which to wear, decisions, decisions.

cool numbers...seem like they were meant to be together.
 
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bla bla bla...

I think we are both at the same OB in Paris (Saint-Honoré ?)... I called them too, they are lost 🙁
It really piss me more than usual because I only go back to France for Christmas... and I was very clear about that... otherwise I would have bought it elsewhere. Just like you, I was in the very first one, if not the first, to ask that OB 🫨

Has anyone received a proper apology / gift from Omega for the delays ?
 
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I think you will be doing well if the OB elects to give you a goody or two. And any 'apology' will be based on a form letter/ email, even though it may sound nice/ personalized.

This type of delivery timeframe has been fairly standard from what I have seen since I started following Omega ~3 years ago. It is best to not put much stock in ads, etc. at the watch release where they may indicate 2-3 months. 6+ seems to be SOP, with many LEs taking closer to one year. That is why it was so painful to see many OBs (at least in the US) requiring 100% 'deposits' upon order. I frankly had no intention of allowing Omega to have >$20k of my money for a year while they built the Trilogy sets. I know it stinks, but that is how Omega seems to operate at this point in time, and they seem successful in largely selling out the LEs.
 
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I think we are both at the same OB in Paris (Saint-Honoré ?)... I called them too, they are lost 🙁
It really piss me more than usual because I only go back to France for Christmas... and I was very clear about that... otherwise I would have bought it elsewhere. Just like you, I was in the very first one, if not the first, to ask that OB 🫨

Has anyone received a proper apology / gift from Omega for the delays ?
I got an Omega candle...kinda weird gift lol. I wonder if anyone has taken delivery of the three set, i.e. one of the 557 set?
 
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