60s Seamaster Evaluation

Hello all,

I hope I may rely on your expertise regarding a 60s Seamaster that I am considering to purchase. It’s the brushed dial that really gets me, yet I’m uncertain about it’s originality. Movement looks ok to me, but I’d factor in a service anyway.
My uneducated guess would be that the case is fine (lugs look sharp to me), caseback is significantly scratched, unfortunately - but that I could live with.
Looking forward to potential replies and I’d like to thank you all in advance. Appreciate it!

Here are some pictures from the seller:

Ah, meant to mention that: Made me wonder, too. Had I not read in this forum that there are some legit vintage Omegas without the Swiss Made, I wouldn’t have even asked here about this watch. But I thought there might still be hope. 😉

I don't like the lume.

Meaning it didn’t come with lume originally or that it was „refreshed“ with the wrong lume?

Thanks for the feedback, both of you.

Case looks sharp- that I’ll give it. Lume looks sloppy (as I think @X350 XJR was seeing)- not perfect little plops like we normally get with factory applied pips. The hands look like onyx, not lume (unless that lume went black-black, and the lack of Swiss made all make me a little uneasy on this one.

But the brushed white dial Seamaster do exist in general? That’d be nice to know, as I’d then leave this one be and try to find one that’s in a less suspicious condition.

I just received another picture that answers a question and opens a new one:



So it does actually say Swiss Made T on the dial - I’d assume now the dial was genuine, albeit with (badly) added lume.
I do wonder, though, why the Swiss Made T is not visible when the dial is in the case?

Tension ring would do it- if it’s an aftermarket crystal (which is commonly replaced by independent watchmakers who don’t have a parts account- they just get what’s close). Yeah, looks better here. If the price is right, correct hands and factory crystal could be had and it would be complete.

Hello all,
sorry for the late reply - I was reading your posts in between but I’m on holiday right now and the lady requests days to be mainly watch-free. 😉

Wow, great news - I’m stunned by the result so far. I‘m not going to say thanks in every single post, even though I feel like it, but I do appreciate this quite a lot.

I‘ll have to disappoint you regarding the asking price, though. Not because I don’t wanna tell, but because it’s an auction that has a couple days left, so hard to tell. Currently it’s around 300€, I’m sure that’s not where it’s going to end.

Which brings me to my next question: I know how much the service at „my“ watchmaker is going to cost me, but what’s the ballpark for a fitting tension ring and possibly correct hands? If those can actually be sourced. If anyone wants to make an educated guess regarding a realistic bid, I‘d also be happy, but since I’m not planning on reselling it for now, for me it’s more about what I’d be willing to invest in the fun the watch is going to give me, if that makes sense.

Thanks @Alpenschneerot - looks beautiful! I’ll see if I can get my hands on the one I posted. Still unsure about the price, but I won’t make the mistake and not think about it till a minute or so before the auction end. That would probably end badly. 😉
If desired I’ll let you know about the result and possibly send pictures of the watch, should I get it.

Apologies for following up on my own post. I didn’t wanna start a whole new thread for this:

So I spend parts of this rainy day to look for further Seamasters with those brushed dials, found one that made me curious (autocorrect trying to change this to furious. That’s not too far off) and tried to apply some of the things I learned here. Hope it’s fine to run my thoughts by you. First, the pictures of the 14701 2SC:



Thoughts:

-Dial: the dial itself seems original to me, but I do wonder, once again, about the missing “Swiss Made”. The tension ring, as pointed out by @Passover for the previous one seems not to be the issue, since there’s still some space between indices and the ring, so we’d see the Swiss Made.

-Font: All the other 14701 2SCs I found hat a different font, especially for the S in Seamaster. Is there a certain time when they switched from one font to the other?

-Lume: The lume in the indices seems very fresh/green-ish. Unrealistically so? Especially in contrast to the hands. I also couldn’t find another one with those arrow indices.

-Case doesn’t seem to be badly polished, but it’s far from a good condition. Plexi needs a polish, but that’s fine.

-Movement: Looks like it needs a proper cleaning/service. Also, watch is at about +1minute/day.

-Asking price is 800€ from private. Seems a bit steep to me.

My thanks go to everybody who’s, once again, putting time and effort into this!