Do we know for sure if there is any correlation with the serial numbers being in order by date of manufacture? The one I returned a month ago due to the issue was 824*****, My AD got a couple in one is 829***** and one 834*****. I'm thinking to have him run the 834 with the chronograph running for 50 hours to see if it stops. I really like this watch and want to buy it back but id like to be "pretty certain" it has the upgraded bushing etc. Thanks
I just got three new sapphire sandwich 3861s directly from Swatch Group in New Jersey, shipped on Monday. One 824****, one 829****, one 834****.
So what would be a fair power reserve with it turned on to conclude the watch probably has the upgraded parts? The one my AD tested got 54 with it on non stop. I got around 30 on the one I returned.
So far, I haven't seen this problem manifesting itself in the Apollo 11 50th Anniversary editions. I believe most, if not all, of these watches were made in 2019. Was there some slight difference in the materials, design or assembly of the Apollo 11 versions? Mine ran for nearly 50 hours with chrono running and didn't show any stoppages.
So far, I haven't seen this problem manifesting itself in the Apollo 11 50th Anniversary editions. I believe most, if not all, of these watches were made in 2019. Was there some slight difference in the materials, design or assembly of the Apollo 11 versions? Mine ran for nearly 50 hours with chrono running and didn't show any stoppages.
I’m not sure it’s leaving the chrono on that’s the issue. More repeated on/off - at least that’s what I believe gave mine the issue (but I’m not an expert).
The chronograph really has nothing to do with the primary issue. The real issue is the bushings in the movement that create debris and wear on the center wheel. This lowers the balance amplitude, and when the added load of the chronograph is put on top of that, the watch will stop when this gets bad enough.
The chronograph is just the extra load that trips this problem into showing up, but is not the cause.
It seems something similar to Rolex 32xx issue.
.... Did a full wind until it stopped before a left the store. 20 hours later I was able to replicate it twice when starting the chronograph. ...
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.. Maybe I should just forget about it and just enjoy the watch and maybe send it in a year down the road ...
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The chronograph really has nothing to do with the primary issue. The real issue is the bushings in the movement that create debris and wear on the center wheel. This lowers the balance amplitude, and when the added load of the chronograph is put on top of that, the watch will stop when this gets bad enough.
The chronograph is just the extra load that trips this problem into showing up, but is not the cause.
Can you really enjoy the watch that is functioning that way?
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as you’ve said earlier, a non chrono user may never notice the issue and in any case it will be dealt with at service time anyway.
But, what if someone keeps on using the watch when there's a bushing that needs to be replaced and oil added, are you damaging more parts of the movement without realizing that you are in fact doing so?
Yes, except we know that Omega has an answer for this one.
If this is wearing with the bushing why is it happening with so many right out of the box brand new?
For those who have not heard about this issue....
So, they purchase a new watch without realizing that, what they have just bought has to be sent back for repair, hopefully returned back to you before the end of this year. Not good!
So sorry but I stand by what I have said. They should have called in all watches back from the OB's and AD's.
The way I see it, things have gotten out of hand by now!
