321 Ed White vs FOIS

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Spoke to my AD yesterday. They said they could get me an ED white this year if I give them a deposit. Seems as though they are not as hard to get anymore.
I think it depends where you live. Difficult to come by in the US. Do we even have an example of an AD getting one in the States?
 
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I think it depends where you live. Difficult to come by in the US. Do we even have an example of an AD getting one in the States?
Yes I live in NJ lol
 
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Yes I live in NJ lol
Good luck.

The OB in Houston hasn't seen many since the release. The old management team told me they received less than 5 before they were all replaced. New management team said they haven't seen any either since I last spoke to them.
 
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Good luck.

The OB in Houston hasn't seen many since the release. The old management team told me they received less than 5 before they were all replaced. New management team said they haven't seen any either since I last spoke to them.
We shall see. They have never failed me.
 
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Spoke to my AD yesterday. They said they could get me an ED white this year if I give them a deposit. Seems as though they are not as hard to get anymore.
How much deposit are they asking for? If you are a good customer why would they even need a deposit?
 
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How much deposit are they asking for? If you are a good customer why would they even need a deposit?
They want the full amount. I prefer vintage to the new one anyway so I wouldn't even do it. A decent vintage example is almost the same price if not a bit cheaper.
 
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They want the full amount. I prefer vintage to the new one anyway so I wouldn't even do it. A decent vintage example is almost the same price if not a bit cheaper.
The problem with vintage ones is the scarcity of the replacement parts, so the old watches are becoming safe queens. If you want to enjoy the EW fully, without being afraid of the consequences of damage, just get the contemporary one.
 
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The problem with vintage ones is the scarcity of the replacement parts, so the old watches are becoming safe queens. If you want to enjoy the EW fully, without being afraid of the consequences of damage, just get the contemporary one.
That’s my thinking, my preference would be for an original EW but I’ve come to the conclusion that if I want to wear it every day then the modern version would be the best compromise.
I went on the list at my OB (in London) last summer and unexpectedly had the offer of one just before Christmas, unfortunately I had to decline as I need to sell a few pieces. I would agree with the previous comments that modern EW is easier to get hold of now.
I was told they get one per quarter so hopefully the stars will align for me this summer.
 
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That’s my thinking, my preference would be for an original EW but I’ve come to the conclusion that if I want to wear it every day then the modern version would be the best compromise.
I went on the list at my OB (in London) last summer and unexpectedly had the offer of one just before Christmas, unfortunately I had to decline as I need to sell a few pieces. I would agree with the previous comments that modern EW is easier to get hold of now.
I was told they get one per quarter so hopefully the stars will align for me this summer.
I agree with you on that. I was offered one on NYE and I had only jokingly inquired about availability. I had to pass on it because the FOIS wasn't paid for just yet.
 
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Rubbish. There’s nothing stopping you wearing a vintage Ed White as a daily. I did so for about 5 years.
 
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Rubbish. There’s nothing stopping you wearing a vintage Ed White as a daily. I did so for about 5 years.
Glad you enjoyed it, as it should be. But considering the hell I went through just to find an original crown, I don't want to imagine if I had to source something less common.
 
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Rubbish. There’s nothing stopping you wearing a vintage Ed White as a daily. I did so for about 5 years.
It's not rubbish. Of course you can wear a vintage watch as a daily, but eventually it will need service. And vintage watches, like the 321 Speedmasters, are getting harder and harder to service from both a good watchmaker perspective and the availability of spare parts. The advantage of a new 321 is that Omega will provide service and parts for decades, for some people that's not a big deal, to others that is important. There isn't any right or wrong here, it comes down to what the driving factor for a 321 is......total complete original piece from that era with the servicing issues it comes with, or a very nice updated piece that won't be an issue for service. Everyone has to make their decision.
 
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It's not rubbish. Of course you can wear a vintage watch as a daily, but eventually it will need service. And vintage watches, like the 321 Speedmasters, are getting harder and harder to service from both a good watchmaker perspective and the availability of spare parts. The advantage of a new 321 is that Omega will provide service and parts for decades, for some people that's not a big deal, to others that is important. There isn't any right or wrong here, it comes down to what the driving factor for a 321 is......total complete original piece from that era with the servicing issues it comes with, or a very nice updated piece that won't be an issue for service. Everyone has to make their decision.
Let me carve this into stone!
 
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It's not rubbish. Of course you can wear a vintage watch as a daily, but eventually it will need service. And vintage watches, like the 321 Speedmasters, are getting harder and harder to service from both a good watchmaker perspective and the availability of spare parts. The advantage of a new 321 is that Omega will provide service and parts for decades, for some people that's not a big deal, to others that is important. There isn't any right or wrong here, it comes down to what the driving factor for a 321 is......total complete original piece from that era with the servicing issues it comes with, or a very nice updated piece that won't be an issue for service. Everyone has to make their decision.
You can’t say one statement is fact and another is opinion.
One members opinion is a vintage 105.003 can’t be a daily. My opinion is that’s rubbish and it can.

Most vintage Speedmaster parts, especially 105.003 and after are not rare. They’re hard to find, but bearing in mind a factory service can take 6 months, you can fairly confidently source the main serviceable parts in that time and have it serviced by an independent
 
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Glad you enjoyed it, as it should be. But considering the hell I went through just to find an original crown, I don't want to imagine if I had to source something less common.

It's the adventure not the destination, Grasshopper.
 
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My original EW gets worn regularly. I'm no brick layer or car mechanic so my watches don't get knocked about. I don't see the original as any less robust than the reboot but YMMV.

David, your Ed and mine could be twins, same darker chrono hand.

I note you can buy a tidy original Ed White and a modern FOIS for the price of the recreation which I think muddies the water a little in terms of which is an alternative to which...

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Really love my white 3861 Sapphire Sandwich, got it last year. I do admire the Ed White, fantastic execution.
For me it has a few issues, all of which are addressed by my current Speedmaster
1 The 321 has to go back to Switzerland for service ($$$$?)
2 Does not have a chronometer certification
3 Doesn't hack
I didn't get the new Snoopy because I didn't care for the animated cartoon back.
To each their own, I just don't care for the sword hands or the faux patina FOIS either.
I do think it's great Omega gives us so many choices.
 
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Unlikely. Sapphire casebooks are routinely thicker than the steel alternative. The new FOIS already has a skinny back. Unlike the first gen model which had a deep relief casting which could leave wrist marks. The sapphire sandwich speedy has always been measurably fatter than the Hesalite model too.
From my own experience, night and day with my "old" FOIS (thinner is spiralwinder).
 
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I personally own the 321 and as much as I loved the release of the new FOIS, would find it very difficult for me to replace the 321 with it given the movement, rarity, and story behind it. I understand your dilemma but wouldn't try to substitute with something that isn't the real deal.