321 Ed White vs FOIS

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The biggest difference is the movement. The movement in the Ed White is waaaaaaay more expensive to service.
 
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The biggest difference is the movement. The movement in the Ed White is waaaaaaay more expensive to service.
Yes, but only because Omega decided to limit the servicing options and does it all in-house in Biel. Not because the caliber would be difficult to service. How would the vintage 321 get serviced otherwise.
 
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The biggest difference is the movement. The movement in the Ed White is waaaaaaay more expensive to service.
Is it? So why is the complete service flat rate for a chronograph 950 on their site without a mention of separate pricing for a 321?

 
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Is it? So why is the complete service flat rate for a chronograph 950 on their site without a mention of separate pricing for a 321?

Maybe you have to factor in the shipping cost to Switzerland, which can slightly increase the price? All the other watches can be serviced in setvice centers around the world.
 
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Maybe you have to factor in the shipping cost to Switzerland, which can slightly increase the price? All the other watches can be serviced in setvice centers around the world.
Even if that is the case, that doesn't amount to "waaaaaaay more expensive".
 
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There is absolutely no reason the 321 can't be serviced outside of Bienne, there have been millions of services on that movement since its introduction almost 80 years ago. There is nothing unique about it, it's probably simpler to service than a modern 3861. Omega has just made parts unobtainable to repairers thus driving overhauls back to Omega in Switzerland. And to keep the mystique alive.
 
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Ed white has fallen below MSRP. While it’s not a perfect indicator of demand, it signals that all the flippers are done, which is a good thing for collectors.
 
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There are a ton on Chrono 24 above MSRP. It’s only going to get more expensive in the US with 39% tariffs on Swiss goods.
 
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Ed white has fallen below MSRP. While it’s not a perfect indicator of demand, it signals that all the flippers are done, which is a good thing for collectors.
Where are you seeing this?
 
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Where are you seeing this?
I've got a mint condition one for sale on the forum below market value if anyone is interested 😉
 
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I've got a mint condition one for sale on the forum below market value if anyone is interested 😉
I've seen that, a very good price if it's a full set with everything included.

But I don't think new prices have fallen below Omega's retail price.
 
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I've got a mint condition one for sale on the forum below market value if anyone is interested 😉
Nice price indeed. So tempting.
 
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I've seen that, a very good price if it's a full set with everything included.

But I don't think new prices have fallen below Omega's retail price.
I can see plenty (if not all) below retail price in C24. At least in Europe.
 
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I can see plenty (if not all) below retail price in C24. At least in Europe.
Really? I see 72 'in stock' Ed Whites w/box and papers on C24, nine of those are slightly under US retail (most from Japan) and most pre-owned. The rest are at or above retail. BNIB are above retail still. A US buyer has to be careful right now with the crazy 39% tariff in play, you don't want to get wacked with a large tariff if you buy overseas and have it shipped in. I see no bargain prices on Ed White 321s.
 
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Really? I see 72 'in stock' Ed Whites w/box and papers on C24, nine of those are slightly under US retail (most from Japan) and most pre-owned. The rest are at or above retail. BNIB are above retail still. A US buyer has to be careful right now with the crazy 39% tariff in play, you don't want to get wacked with a large tariff if you buy overseas and have it shipped in. I see no bargain prices on Ed White 321s.
As an example the one listed on this forum. Near 6.000€ below retail.
Retail price is 17.100€
 
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As an example the one listed on this forum. Near 6.000€ below retail.
Retail price is 17.100€
This reseller (ex AD) thought he could get top dollar for it having it initially listed for €26k, now dropped to €19.5k.::facepalm1::::facepalm1::

 
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As an example the one listed on this forum. Near 6.000€ below retail.
Retail price is 17.100€
€17,100 is US$20,050. US retail is $16,200 + sales tax for most buyers (~8%). So none of those examples would be a bargain for a US buyer once shipping and duty is figured in. Best bet for US buyers is to go through an OB, you will probably get one if you show you are buyer ready to commit to a purchase and not a tire kicker or flipper. I've got no dog in this hunt as I've had, and enjoyed, mine since March 2022, I'm just challenging statements saying BNIB Ed Whites can be had for less than retail, which isn't true for US buyers. Other countries, maybe. Everything ends up being local.

You can sometimes find used ones less than retail now, there are a couple on OF now, but we all know pre-owned is not the same as new. Shop wisely and you'll come out ok in the end with an Ed White on your wrist. Might be pre-owned, might be new, but they are available.
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I think the new/grey 321 prices are getting pretty close to MSRP.

Last December (2024), I was about the throw in the towel and buy a grey 321 for less than $1000 over MSRP. A new OB had opened in my town and I expressed interest and had one within two months.

It is a great watch and I can't believe so many near new ones are available on C24 and eBay.

As for as being comparable to the FOIS, that is like comparing a Mercedes to a VW. They may look similar and are the same size, but the 321 has a Patek level movement and the FOIS does not.
 
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but the 321 has a Patek level movement and the FOIS does not.
The 321 not being COSC or Metas level
certified the FOIS trumps it on movement imho.
 
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The 321 not being COSC or Metas level
certified the FOIS trumps it on movement imho
Ok. You do you.