2915 Speedmaster f/s on European watch co (Boston USA)

pseikotick

The bezel may or may not be original. It's dubious when anyone makes a bold assertion based only on opinion. And the crown story is another unknown. It's dangerous that there are some who feel they are so well-versed in bezels that they can state unequivocally that one of these stainless versions that are often reproduced in several ways and of which there are only a handful of examples that can be authenticated...as much as that is possible with any of these.(..and it's not really possible) is definitely original. The same danger exists in anyone claiming to know that a given DON bezel is absolutely legit. It's just not possible without a dated photo history...and even then could be faked.

It is interesting that the hands and indices are so closely matched, yet I see no one claiming it is an obvious sign of a re lum. I have never felt matched hands and dial are always a give away. Some originals match very well...others do not. This watch is a good lesson, if it is, in fact, original and the dial and hands are not molested. No one can know these things without having it in hand for a period of time.

There are no real experts with regard to 2915s, including the moon watch book guys. There is no one who has the answers, including Omega.

pseikotick

I own a couple of them, and even if I'd owned a dozen, it would not be enough to make me an expert. I see these ss bezels that look very convincing at times, and I see others that are not so convincing, but I know two or three talented men who could create whatever you want with any finish you like...aged or not...if you want to pay.

pseikotick

And I've seen enough to know that no one can be sure. Sorry.

pseikotick

I feel like I'm telling a kid Santa isn't real, and the kid says "I just sat on his lap last night at the mall." Are there still malls?

Anything as simple as these bezels can be copied EXACTLY. We have flown to the moon (back when a computer filled an entire room) and can store the information from the ancient library at Alexandria in a thumb drive. Recreating these bezels is well within the reach of any determined counterfeiter, and the values are high enough to make it worth their time.

pseikotick

And I didn't mean to say you're a kid. I know you believe what you're typing, and I understand why you feel the way you feel. Both of the bezels above may well be 100 percent authentic. Or not. I'm sorry if I was too harsh. And happy birthday.

Dan S

I don't understand this thread, what happened to all of the posts by @pseikotick that are quoted? Deleted? By mods or the poster?

It makes the thread very difficult to follow.

Dan S

I don't understand this thread, what happened to all of the posts by @pseikotick that are quoted? Deleted? By mods or the poster?

It makes the thread very difficult to follow.

OMEGuy

Here is another 2915-2 for comparison:

mr_yossarian

And general: can you recall the source of the 2915 or the picture you posted twice?

ndgal

Tooling marks of original 2915-1/2 Speedmaster bezels.

mr_yossarian

This is a circular reasoning...
You posted the same 2915 picture from one of your banned profiles in this thread here, saying you think it might be a 2nd generation bezel. Now you post it here as another 2915 (Bezel) for comparison, bare of that comment, thus implying it's authentic.

And general: can you recall the source of the 2915 or the picture you posted twice?

Anyone else with general interest, go read the whole thread here: Does anybody know how 2915 bezels really looked like?

OMEGuy

Yes, I can. I know the guy who owns this watch and since he has good connections to the vintage watches staff in Bienne, it is shown on the official OMEGA website as well.

mr_yossarian

So back then when you posted this from one of your banned accounts, you didn't know all of this or him, you made friends with the guy after posting his picture and now it's all confirmed? A bit of substance woHe'suld be appreciated and help to back up your statement.

mr_yossarian

This is a circular reasoning...
You posted the same 2915 picture from one of your banned profiles in this thread here, saying you think it might be a 2nd generation bezel. Now you post it here as another 2915 (Bezel) for comparison, bare of that comment, thus implying it's authentic.

And general: can you recall the source of the 2915 or the picture you posted twice?

Anyone else with general interest, go read the whole thread here: Does anybody know how 2915 bezels really looked like?
https://omegaforums.net/threads/does-anybody-know-how-2915-bezels-really-looked-like.83569/

OMEGuy

Yes, I can. I know the guy who owns this watch and since he has good connections to the vintage watches staff in Bienne, it is shown on the official OMEGA website as well.

OMEGuy

I understand your thoughts, but I can't tell you more than this guy, I know him personally, bought the watch from a well known seller in the USA and he had to pay a respectable amount for it. I knew this guy long time before he bought the watch, because he bought a 2915 from me, that was when we first met. It's maybe 15 years ago.

None of that matters or substantiates your claims, but aims to detract from the Topic.
And keep me fully cited.

OMEGuy

If we were detracting from the topic, this wasn't in my responsibility, but initiated by you. Fully cited or not, I can't tell anything but the truth.

ConElPueblo

...So have you been registered here before on a now banned account?

Spacefruit

Cant you tell? 😀