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Does anybody know how 2915 bezels really looked like?

  1. nerdbedusa

    nerdbedusa Oct 11, 2018

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    Hi there,

    I have several CK 2915 watches that might need an original bezel.

    Well an original one will be out of reach, but at least a bezel that will bring back the original look for a daily wrist tool would be ok...;)

    At the moment, I'm trying to finalize some '2915 stuff'. This is not meant to sound arrogant, but it's a fact, that I kept many projects over the years, without going further ahead with them.

    In this context I showed you one of my CK 2915 dial projects recently. It was all about James Hyman, who did an outstanding job. :) I will post pics of this dial in that thread once it's returned.

    Studying auction pics or even websites like William's excellent compendium makes you mad.

    I know that there are replica bezels available and they are very close to being perfect, but I wonder if anyone has any additional thoughts?

    I'm just trying to finish some projects and would love to see them as perfect as possible in the end.

    Any experts with advise here?
     
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  2. ext1

    ext1 Oct 11, 2018

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  3. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Oct 11, 2018

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    the Speedmaster Broad Arrow Replica has a steel, Base 1000 bezel that may fit. it might require some convincing to fit a 2915 case.

    IMG_2035-580x434.jpg

    I made my own 2915 look a like out of a 105.002... it's not perfect, but I like it.

    20180918_081944.jpg
     
  4. ext1

    ext1 Oct 11, 2018

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    Right ::facepalm1::::facepalm2:: my bad. Then I think the Bukowski one points to being original, as per the reading. But what can we be sure of, these are so old already and so little info is available. For sure the Phillips one was prepped in some way and the articles pointed out those two bezels were made differently, so...
     
  5. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Oct 11, 2018

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    Yes. You are correct. It cost me about $200 on ebay though. The replicas that you're referring to that look almost as good as the real deal though are, i understand, close to 5 figures on their own... I considered it for a second, then bought a watch instead.
     
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  6. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Oct 11, 2018

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    pics when you find something suitable! :D
     
  7. oddboy

    oddboy Zero to Grail+2998 In Six Months Oct 11, 2018

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    I think that the 2915 cases are slightly smaller than 2998+ cases, so a bezel from a modern speedmaster (42mm) may not fit the original 2915 case. A watchmaker could/should be able to use tricks of the trade to adjust it to fit though...
     
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  8. mr_yossarian

    mr_yossarian Oct 11, 2018

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    oh..as perfect as possible. From my knowlegde you are the guy who actually didn't ask for a proper relume and restoration, but for something beyond that.
    I think you should be aware that the league you're trying to enter will always be able to tell what's real and what's prepared.
    If you do it for your own pleasure, all fine, but I have the impression it's beyond that. Could have said this shorter, that might have violated forum etiquette though.
     
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  9. nerdbedusa

    nerdbedusa Oct 11, 2018

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    Thank you for your straight response.

    Yes, I'm the guy who wants to have it perfect.

    No, I'm not going to sell these watches within the next couple of years.

    Then, I am now aware which league I have entered many years ago, before the Speedy thing became popular. And I was before I posted this thread.

    Then you can believe me that I'm intelligent enough to know that I won't wake a sleeping dog with the 2915 theme anymore.

    And yes, all I was asking for here was some advice.
     
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  10. mr_yossarian

    mr_yossarian Oct 11, 2018

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    You'll get a adequate response tomorrow.
     
  11. mr_yossarian

    mr_yossarian Oct 11, 2018

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    you actually don't want that.
     
  12. nerdbedusa

    nerdbedusa Oct 11, 2018

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    Cool. Then let's just stay friends. :)
     
  13. nerdbedusa

    nerdbedusa Oct 11, 2018

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    From your knowledge? What do you mean?

    I did not even agree using UV-powder for the dial restoration, you are obviously talking about.
     
  14. mr_yossarian

    mr_yossarian Oct 11, 2018

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    ..because radium reacts different? At least you seem to know what my initial comment was aimed at.
     
  15. nerdbedusa

    nerdbedusa Oct 11, 2018

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    This dial has been relumed in the best way possible.

    I think that's just fine.

    And everyone can see this dial now, all over the world and check if it's the same in the watch shown for sale or not.

    If you were right, I wouldn't have posted that dial thread here.

    Feel free to leave your comment on the dial thread. It's just OT here.
     
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  16. ConElPueblo

    ConElPueblo Oct 11, 2018

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    So, are you suggesting that not wanting UV powder in your fake aged lume mix is wrong somehow? ::confused2::
     
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  17. mr_yossarian

    mr_yossarian Oct 11, 2018

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    you can find the answer earlier in this thread and I hate it when you tackle my on wrong occasions.
     
  18. nerdbedusa

    nerdbedusa Oct 11, 2018

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    No. It's an option I would have chosen, if possible.

    But in this special case the indices had 'faded' very much. They were totally gone. And lume with UV-powder is harder to apply. I did not want to have further complications with the restoration.

    Otherwise I guess that UV-powder is fine for relume work.
     
  19. nerdbedusa

    nerdbedusa Oct 11, 2018

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    Come down.

    I feel that we don't have any problem at all.
     
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  20. ConElPueblo

    ConElPueblo Oct 11, 2018

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    Sorry about that, unsure what you mean though :)


    I would personally avoid UV powder in a restoration such as this. Having a sixty year old watch light up like a modern dive watch when entering an unlit corridor just seems wrong to me. I'll be reluming some hands on an equally old watch soon and I've thought of using some ground up radium lume for that job. If I chicken out I'll have to source some non-luminous fine powder instead to give the correct look.