2852 Connie check

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RevZMan123

·Mar 4, 2023

I've been offered this SS no date arrowhead. It appears to be a 1st gen early model with the boxy As and sans serif font.

The things that caught my eye were the applied logo being off-center and the OFFICIALLY CERTIFIED line. Specifically the spacing between the wording and the location of the Y as compared to the vertical line.

I have seen others sold with the off-center logo.

I don't have a great pic of the SWISS MADE or the movement yet, which I'm told is a 505 but no pics yet or the back. But the SWISS MADE seems to be in a strange spot I don't recall seeing on Desmond's blog or in the REDIAL pdf.

Edited: Mar 4, 2023

 

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RevZMan123

·Mar 4, 2023

Straightened out the pic and dropped a reference line

 

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TexOmega

·Mar 4, 2023

I vote original

 

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kyle L

·Mar 4, 2023·Grasshopper

+1 looks good to me!

 

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RevZMan123

·Mar 4, 2023

Thank you! I'm, digging the double "two tone" (SS case/gold hardware + the shimmery border on the dial) and might see about trading it for my kl6312/560.

 

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MtV

·Mar 4, 2023

Yup, looking good. Swiss Made existed both in this position or around the 6 marker. Second hand might be a tiny bit too long?

 

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inchpincher

·Mar 4, 2023

Mine for reference, I’d vote yours is kosher.

 

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Davidt

·Mar 4, 2023

Looks good to me. Buy it!

 

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RevZMan123

·Mar 4, 2023

MtV

Yup, looking good. Swiss Made existed both in this position or around the 6 marker. Second hand might be a tiny bit too long?

Hmmm I see the second hand now that you mention it.

 

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MtV

·Mar 4, 2023

RevZMan123

Hmmm I see the second hand now that you mention it.

Just to be clear - if the price is right this wouldn’t stop me from buying it. 😀

 

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JohnSteed

·Mar 4, 2023

deal done yet? 😉

 

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hoipolloi

·Mar 4, 2023

Like a well polished case, all the letters were cleaned and worn out, became skinny and lost the serifs. I would not buy it.

 

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RevZMan123

·Mar 4, 2023

inchpincher

Mine for reference, I’d vote yours is kosher.

Oh thank you for this match on the dial.

 

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RevZMan123

·Mar 4, 2023

hoipolloi

Like a well polished case, all the letters were cleaned and worn out, became skinny and lost the serifs. I would not buy it.

Ohhh is that why they are missing all the serifs? Interesting.

 

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inchpincher

·Mar 5, 2023

hoipolloi

Like a well polished case, all the letters were cleaned and worn out, became skinny and lost the serifs. I would not buy it.

Well that’s interesting. The weight of the crosshair and the minute markers are good so I completely missed the serifs. It still ‘feels’ like a genuine period dial, is there any chance this hasn’t been reprinted? Picture added for ease of comparison.

 

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sheepdoll

·Mar 5, 2023

Something seems off on your watch. Feels like a redial on first impression.

You made me get my connies out for comparison. The crystals seem to be a bit cloudy. Probably should try some polywatch on them.

and an overview.

The phone camera does a horrible job (especially as it is now well after midnight.) I do not get these out much.

So many watches, so little time. ... and more parts on the way ...

 

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Davidt

·Mar 5, 2023

inchpincher

Well that’s interesting. The weight of the crosshair and the minute markers are good so I completely missed the serifs. It still ‘feels’ like a genuine period dial, is there any chance this hasn’t been reprinted? Picture added for ease of comparison.

That close up doesn’t look great actually. @RevZMan123 have you had the watch in hand and viewed under a loupe?

 

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RevZMan123

·Mar 5, 2023

Davidt

That close up doesn’t look great actually. @RevZMan123 have you had the watch in hand and viewed under a loupe?

Nope, fully digital so far.

 

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RevZMan123

·Mar 5, 2023

inchpincher

Well that’s interesting. The weight of the crosshair and the minute markers are good so I completely missed the serifs. It still ‘feels’ like a genuine period dial, is there any chance this hasn’t been reprinted? Picture added for ease of comparison.

This conversation on Desmond's blog is the only place I see anyone talking about a Connie with sans serif font.

Also, the Constellation script is similarly serif-less.

 

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Aroxx

·Mar 5, 2023

I don’t know enough about these older ones to weigh in initially but I also thought the text looked fishy when I first looked at it. Glad someone else with more experience noticed. The I’s in “Officially” are super faded and the Y seems a bit too far away from the crosshair line. Really a lot of the lettering looks too small or a bit off. The theory that it was cleaned up and removed some of the print makes sense to me.